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Title: The Three Worst Words
Post by: Jaharkta on June 30, 2007, 02:11:45 PM
I'll tell you that I worked in mental health for 25+ years, being compelled to admit malingerers and manipulators, and that I had the personally-karmic (mis)fortune to be involved with some of the world's great liars and scoundrels. My own father was deemed a "sociopath". I've known alcoholics and addicts and seen hellish, self-induced miseries of human nature. I've been on a treadmill of stuck-ness and immobility in my own walk. I have lots of cause for cynicism, but.....

I would never say to anyone, no matter how reprehensible, "You'll never change." And at the moment, even if statistically the 3 words bore out some predictive value, I can't think of any more spiritually-brutal condemnation. It seems the same condemnation as "You're going to hell," from the mainstream syntax.

What sort of energy is sent out when we metaphorically bolt the door on someone's capacity to change? I think sometimes, and you can call me 'superstitious' if you want to, that we should take care in how we view each other (and of course ourselves).

As Michael himself said so eloquently years ago: if we are offended we are in the wrong. So naturally, as warriors it is incumbent upon us to let such condemnation roll off our feathers like drops of water. That part is easy, though ... I'm addressing instead what comes out of our mouths.
Title: Re: The Three Worst Words
Post by: mayflow on June 30, 2007, 02:26:22 PM
Change is inevitable

Change is Beautiful

In my world
Title: Re: The Three Worst Words
Post by: John on July 01, 2007, 04:53:41 AM
I would never say to anyone, no matter how reprehensible, "You'll never change." And at the moment, even if statistically the 3 words bore out some predictive value, I can't think of any more spiritually-brutal condemnation. It seems the same condemnation as "You're going to hell," from the mainstream syntax.

I hear you.

But is it really that bad? That depends on how we value "what is not" changing. Most of us are unable to change, if not, we would in constant bliss all of us right now.

For that particular post it wrote "will not change ..... Why should he?" Here lies a choice, he or she has choosen a certain pattern of communication, a change require another "will" that create a choice that in its turn yield a change. Whatcould be a reason for change? It is a valid question, nothing to get offended by. Is it?





Title: Re: The Three Worst Words
Post by: Jaharkta on July 01, 2007, 08:08:11 AM
I hear you.

But is it really that bad? That depends on how we value "what is not" changing. Most of us are unable to change, if not, we would in constant bliss all of us right now.

For that particular post it wrote "will not change ..... Why should he?" Here lies a choice, he or she has choosen a certain pattern of communication, a change require another "will" that create a choice that in its turn yield a change. Whatcould be a reason for change? It is a valid question, nothing to get offended by. Is it?

First, J, this post wasn't referencing your post, truly.
Second, it isn't about being offended.  Because to be sure, out there in the mainstream, I never bought for a minute that I was "going to hell", for instance. No need to take that kind of indictment to heart -- nor the one about "not changing". I was thinking more of those of us who might be in the business of -- either professionally or avocationally -- facilitating or encouraging change, growth, or transformation. If the ones with that occupation bolt the door on anyone's capacity to change, then ... what weight does that carry energetically for the individual? It's like a self-fulfilling prophecy after a while. (At least that is the thesis I was presenting.)

If the individual is a warrior, then s/he already knows that the opinion of another means little in the end --- that everything which must be done, must be done on the path, alone, with no help, really, except perhaps from spirit. An opinion is a wisp on the wind compared to the work that must be done.

No, no, what you said "wasn't so bad", and to put it in personal terms, you have a point. Many is the time I set up situations for myself where I can maintain my comfort zone!  We can (usually unconsciously) set things up in the environment, in our path-of-motion, to never have to change!

Example: I cannot negotiate 80mph highways.  I take the back roads instead. Therefore, I never learn to negotiate 80mph highways.
Title: Re: The Three Worst Words
Post by: littlefeather on July 03, 2007, 07:53:33 PM
Alone except for Spirit
sad
yet beautiful
all at the same time
 8)

a warrior, knows that the opinion of another means little in the end --- that everything which must be done, must be done on the path, alone, with no help, really, except perhaps from spirit. An opinion is a wisp on the wind compared to the work that must be done.

Example: I cannot negotiate 80mph highways.  I take the back roads instead. Therefore, I never learn to negotiate 80mph highways.
:-*
Title: Re: The Three Worst Words
Post by: zenandnow on July 05, 2007, 05:43:49 PM
I hear you.

But is it really that bad? That depends on how we value "what is not" changing. Most of us are unable to change, if not, we would in constant bliss all of us right now.
not even the sunrise
will be duplicated twice. 
each moment one chance.
Title: Re: The Three Worst Words
Post by: John on July 06, 2007, 04:21:18 AM
not even the sunrise
will be duplicated twice. 
each moment one chance.

So appears the linear space and time continuity.
Title: Re: The Three Worst Words
Post by: zenandnow on July 10, 2007, 06:47:16 AM
Most of us are unable to change, if not, we would in constant bliss all of us right now.
<----this is the fault of your dis-ablement of looking only for what has stayed the same. ----<<<<
 
Title: Re: The Three Worst Words
Post by: John on July 11, 2007, 07:32:47 AM
<----this is the fault of your dis-ablement of looking only for what has stayed the same. ----<<<<

 
    ~~~~~~    Where did I fail - where is my jail  ~~~~~~

                     
                 ~~~  Where did I find me - who did I see? ~~~   
Title: Re: The Three Worst Words
Post by: zenandnow on July 11, 2007, 10:13:44 PM
heh heh heh

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