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Death (the tumbling force, public) => Wisdom => Topic started by: runningstream on December 27, 2016, 07:53:50 AM

Title: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 27, 2016, 07:53:50 AM
Here is a thread for issues that need addressing ,
Addressing issues because it's necessary to not get caught in endless lost paths through losing your core.

A good method is to have a close friend who will tell you when you've wandered away , and to pull you back ,
As a practitioner of the way , wherever that way is .

I've always found sarcasm to be the language of the superior feeling ignorant ,
I feel it important to use this thread with an extreme honest voice so as to gain clarity about whats become muddy.

I will begin by posing questions which I find apparent yet feel need highlighting .

Even without answers.  And will add to them feel free to also , be confronting yet not confrontational .
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 27, 2016, 07:56:58 AM
How is it we can have millions of Buddhists yet no buddhas ?
I read something said how Buddha did a teaching and only one person got the lesson out of everybody .

If budda was alive and only one person got it Im wondering how anybody afterwards will get it .
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 27, 2016, 08:01:02 AM
I really feel there is so much choice spiritually speaking in paths ,
There are familiar spiritual families , or groups we find on our paths , some have chosen different lessons ,
Does this make them different families ?
No , it merely makes communication difficult , it makes prejudice , and causes family rifts.
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 27, 2016, 08:04:34 AM
Here , so do the indian texts hindus Vedas have a different third attention from the Toltecs, from the Christians , from the travellers of awareness who find them selves in our time having the universe reveal it's secrets  to somebody who is a laymen in their terms ?
How do these people communicate , and should they even bother .
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 27, 2016, 08:08:02 AM
Who distinguishes who is the teacher in these cases and what is the purpose of such discussion ?

Remembering families also , does spirit dictate the direction if so how is it communication is effected?
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 27, 2016, 08:12:30 AM
If you try to take to a third attention Christian Hindu Toltec buddhist with a method contrary to those directions dicated by their teaching , attempting sone kind of fascilitation by an opposing view possibly even contrary, what is the likelihood of intelligent communication or success?
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 27, 2016, 08:17:29 AM
Why are we here , what is the purpose of life ?
Are the purposes of life in each tradition , consequential on the actions and outcomes of these transactions ?

Why is it so hard to hear , or speak to a different teachings words ?
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 27, 2016, 08:27:55 AM
With the world becoming more and more chaotic , how is it that there are people who believe they are acheiving some kind of spiritual freedom to create reality yet its not based in this reality , yet they're unable to be convinced ?
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: Michael on December 30, 2016, 07:02:36 AM
How is it we can have millions of Buddhists yet no buddhas ?
I read something said how Buddha did a teaching and only one person got the lesson out of everybody .

If budda was alive and only one person got it Im wondering how anybody afterwards will get it .

Do some more research on Buddhism Simon. You will find that of all the traditions of 'enlightenment', Buddhism has produced more successful students than any other tradition. It is astounding how many buddhas have arrived from this tradition. You may not know of them as 'the Buddha' because they are not into propaganda. A little research will reveal just how successful this method has been.

The 'one person' you refer to was Bodhidharma who understood the sermon of the flower. But don't stop there - reflect of how later in Chain, he cut off his eyelids....
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 30, 2016, 09:39:46 AM
The Buddhists will be blown away by the wind too
, perhaps this will be of no consequence to them .
If I knew everything in books I still won't start quoting the books I read it in too much , if I wasn't in them.
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 30, 2016, 10:21:00 AM
Why do so many sorcerers show up life after life thinking they're leaving for freedom?
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 30, 2016, 10:22:13 AM
Why do the wise not lower them selves to learn from those they feel below them ?
Never bothering to see what it is they haven't already known ?
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 30, 2016, 10:45:42 AM
Perhaps you have never known wisdom and power ?
That comes through balance and does not belong to you , if your heart is pure enough it will tap you and burn you .
Then there will be absolutely no question as to what those things are , and your heart will gladly give itself for the greater picture.
Even remembering itself the middle way.
Utilising all sides.
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: nemo on December 30, 2016, 03:38:34 PM
Here , so do the indian texts hindus Vedas have a different third attention from the Toltecs, from the Christians , from the travellers of awareness who find them selves in our time having the universe reveal it's secrets  to somebody who is a laymen in their terms ?
How do these people communicate , and should they even bother .

In my youth I was with some friends in the basement rec room and my friends were high on pot. I started talking about if god actually was into changing how he dressed as fashion changed. Like he wears typically a white robe type of thing, but to the mid-west american during the 1800's he may have worn a cowboy outfit, hat and all, which got the most laughs, but to this day I picture the christian god dressed as a cowboy as a not doing of the god we inherited, as the singular western god.

I use Toltec terms, but spent some time with lex who was into the vedic, attempting to do the crossover. He and I are friends and have great respect for one another but I found that he had developed a bias to understanding limited to his inherited view from vedic, as I may very well have from Toltec. Also on a forum there was an  attempt to make difinitions clear as to meanings, but it didn't thrive. I feel it was not the time yet for that type of thing but it has merit.

This is my prime reason for seeking out todays wise men adepts, to see if a universal understanding that is easily understood can be downloaded, anchored in this now timeline. When the whole earth is in view. Surely the flow of things will move towards a world view, but that world view at the moment is being dominated by those that hinder the potential of man. ie: Forcing alignments down timelines where they are in control.

I quess what I am trying to say again all possibilities exist "yes"? There is no actual singular answer that is correct to the question you posed here "yes"?. That's the answer singular answer (chuckle)
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: nemo on December 30, 2016, 03:50:53 PM
Why do the wise not lower them selves to learn from those they feel below them ?
Never bothering to see what it is they haven't already known ?

If I may? To pose these two questions means your view maintains a hierarchical fixed construct.
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 30, 2016, 10:06:20 PM
What if I am ably the least fixed construct here , who is
Stating the fixed in a confronting manner to awaken the " wise men" stated , stating to bring the new possibility into action .
As words alone won't do it , its the action of doing .
The act of seeing brings the how .
Explaining the how is not the same.
Getting those able to listen to how and act is what needs to be done. 
While the wise men argue about the detail's of the words exactly , the construct is taking it's course.
And unless your a buddhist who's going to pop out for a bit , your going to have to stick your head in the sand 
To miss where the collectives headed.
If you believe your world is not going to receive it , I can
Send you emails about the details and you can deny my existence if you like .
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 30, 2016, 10:09:41 PM
That should do it .
So nemo , how do you plan to turn the ship around.
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: nemo on December 30, 2016, 11:30:44 PM
That should do it .
So nemo , how do you plan to turn the ship around.


A long time now

turned around

a ship has been

on it not

you seem

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Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 31, 2016, 01:17:55 AM
Righto Yoda
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 31, 2016, 01:31:09 AM
Useless head up ass brigade don't want to cooperate fine with me . I've been impeccable with you all first . heres your assembledge point .
Whos going to be right .
I'll begin nemo lala block out reality thread immediately .
Bring it on .

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Land
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 31, 2016, 01:50:25 AM
Your not a third attention
Your on the cusp
Your stuck in your head
Your a nit wit
Third attention warriors will now destroy everything
Standing in their way
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 31, 2016, 02:06:17 AM
Why because they are nit wits who've been given power and have no idea what that is .

The pillars Toltecs tribes whatever you want to call them are standing up right all the way onto the horizon , its a fact of time that has nothing to do with your language in opposition to everyone and thing , its about finding a balance ,
The balance is a middle way .
Negative implies positive , middle implies work .

Opinions are like assholes everyone's got one , if you can't function with those separate pillars it war that's the fact , if you were aware of your power aligned on the horizon you'd know every moment extended further than yourself
.

Through those epic spheres , you would have the ability to align those base spheres " no were not all the same"
Collectively .

The language base is not important as far as traditions are concerned , except in acceptance and using to find within your own story that balance . " asshole"

They point at the same thing .

I'll say that again , about bringing the story into alignment. All are pieces of knowledge which work together.

If you want to be right yet not do right , its a battle .

You'll see . while the world falls around you , absolute bullshit when you could've succeeded by bringing those base tribes into alignment.

Its a seeing , why not bring the seeings together in function ?

See
,

That's why the base warriors will otherwise once again kick the heads ass for not coming into alignment ,
Their needs are yet to be met , as they try to pull away.

Do you think those base are any less connected to this force you speak of at this time ?

Which no is not your genius nor solely available to you .

And their choice is going to be under those circumstances to stand up together and get rid of what stands in their way yet again .

Within the band of mans emanations what do you think the six signifies ?

Why the sky will now destroy them and not all will pass .

Why if you think you have time to change this is not functional.

I can as easily go to war and then stand up , sad but true

Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 31, 2016, 02:24:14 AM
Honestly the seers now do what your talking about as naturally as walking and talking , and you think
Holding it tightly is special .
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 31, 2016, 02:49:24 AM
Here is why an explaination is needed .
Reaching third attention delivers you to your totality .

My passionate strong language is not for my personal ego gains its pointed towards something else , the collective .

As you might notice.

Imagine inward solar system then outer .


Imagine the sun and orbits .

Now imagine for a moment not the view of sky , or self , merely perception view .

Imagine those light fragments as atoms permeating your perceptual view in the space before you .

That space is a dream and the dream is colored by them.

They are assembled .

At a base level of time spectrum also existing presently are orgins , those origins represent being in simpler dynamic forms .

At a harmonious level they operate together , and as they expand out , one becomes two and further as seed .

Looking back towards one and two gives a simpler form to work with .

Looking outward to expanse does not necessarily correct what has occurred at simpler view .

What still needs harmony exists at both points close and far , with close harmony comes far awareness and acceptance .

Awareness means knowing what is required .

To shift what is before you.  And as you are so you can see , shifting you accept the awareness , yet the middle shows you how to ,

Holding the space as we've seen is not simple , as shifting self to all , so we find a way .

The way I see is returning to one and two and bringing harmony to these orbits.

Then outward also oscillates .

It's balance and it finds the other orbits seeking them " pillars" to come into alignment .

The link to Syria I posted  the direct result of not having addressed those issues.
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 31, 2016, 03:12:06 AM
Try this now numerical value ,
666


And again


777


Within spectrum

Become third attention

Through the space utilised between bringing fruit


Now if within spectrum 7 is the sky

Which positions do the three points of six occupy ?

Been grounded , and which sky the seven three points within spectrum ?


The sky is self , self has in all three points passed ,


If you read the bible passage about let him who has an ear to hear what the spirit says to the seven churches ,


I'll give you a clue " its all the same person"
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 31, 2016, 03:28:08 AM
Entrophy
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 31, 2016, 03:53:01 AM
You could reach freedom yourself , sky .
I'm talking about others
Title: Re: Whats relevant
Post by: runningstream on December 31, 2016, 10:14:22 AM
It was a nice poem nemo
Thankyou
We get to get it out
I have a bear friend like you
He would say I don't want to be a grizzly bear
Even get mad
I had to stir you up
I hope you understand
Thankyou my bear friend