Restless Soma

Death (the tumbling force, public) => The Cave => Topic started by: zig on October 27, 2018, 01:46:00 AM

Title: About values
Post by: zig on October 27, 2018, 01:46:00 AM
Hi. (I m in the computer with the no enter button so I can't create paragraphs) . I wanted to theme the collective 'status from my own perspective and experiencing... Apart from the destruction or at least change in values of society structures where one of them is man..., I see a quacking in awareness of the planet which temporarily seems irreversible …  I personally see it as destructive and in a way 'leading the soul out' to use a poetic license. What are your thoughts ? -Nik-
Title: Re: About values
Post by: runningstream on October 27, 2018, 11:45:29 AM
Here's an example, where

-respect as a value,
has been manipulated by the 'mode' of the (times for some) and exchanged for an irregular and unfitting simile.
A sleight , where the suggestion that-


-Free speech
 is somehow equal to respect , by allowing others to speak disrespectfully, ignorantly, hatefully etc , and sometimes plain stupidly.
 
Whilst requiring of

the perceivers point-to stay respectful or at least passive to whatever as not being an afront to obvious values of exchange in 'sensibilities' of awareness. "Defanged, horrified and stupified or numbed basically  " .



Another being
-political correctness ,
The whim of the times to try accommodate what ever cause is being fought in imbalance within the socially governed structure  in attempt to remedy accordingly and accommodating the often knee jerk directions and not addressing time withstanding motion through correct balance.


As far as I'm concerned people fought hard for equality ,
At some point they were given these two ,
Political correctness which was exchanged for free speech which meant the disruptive and deceptive  exchange and obvious societal effects ,


Stupid is as stupid does , and respect for others was sold ( by the establishment and the ignorant)
To ineffectively govern the masses towards destruction whilst the balanced "saw" and shifted their gaze from the obvious horror or were drawn into the battle.


Then beyond the surface view , its from spirit perspective heading in the right direction for some also.


Stupid is as stupid gets.


And also,
Some play stupid :)
Title: Re: About values
Post by: runningstream on October 27, 2018, 11:58:59 AM
There is a more comprehensive view however outside of this ,
That what is woven amongst what is throughout time can be witnessed in perfection ,
That what is hidden becomes revealed and that time is revealing what will fruit and what will fall.


There's spirits hand in this too, its also perfection in time.


When you said man , i have seen today this pulling away from man by woman , even division in the world.


There is a blame game going back to the beginning.
Although it may have occurred in yin dreaming a split ,
Its not pulling away that will mend this ,
They're woven together and inseparable.
So what if its going to be a man that realigns balance, or a woman Who wandered away.


That argument is useless , its choosing remembering.
Title: Re: About values
Post by: runningstream on October 27, 2018, 01:29:40 PM
https://youtu.be/bo_efYhYU2A
Title: Re: About values
Post by: zig on October 27, 2018, 01:40:37 PM
I balance and fight with an imbalance in my head and my perception somehow.. Can you make this
Quote
When you said man , i have seen today this pulling away from man by woman , even division in the world.
/ simpler and easier to understand maybe. - also, thanks for your replies, I find them on target pretty much. …...
Title: Re: About values
Post by: zig on October 27, 2018, 01:46:18 PM
...And merciless sometimes.  ;D lol
Title: Re: About values
Post by: runningstream on October 27, 2018, 02:03:08 PM
Zik,
Here is an example for a man,


Today I was sitting waiting for food I had ordered ,
I had shrunk in a way , become introspective , introverted .
Where perception may hunt outwardly , I had released hunting, and gave no opposing charge , merely humbled and simply sat beneath it.


Because I was there , a person came and said do you want us to sit  with you?


I didn't know them.


I was slow to answer as I was so inwardly still , then replied yes you can sit with me if you want.


It happened in that quiet space , you know ?


I was balanced and its quite unusual , yet its somehow engaging.


That depth is beneficial and honest to that and is recognised somehow in another , sometimes they recognise and respond.







Title: Re: About values
Post by: zig on October 27, 2018, 02:08:51 PM
Yes, I understand ...
Title: Re: About values
Post by: zig on October 27, 2018, 04:17:39 PM
...So there is some kind of quickening and polishing going on. Theme is, is there value in it? ... Collectively there may be... What about if you are36 or 32 years old, or even 45 ?  ::)
Title: Re: About values
Post by: zig on October 27, 2018, 04:20:12 PM
I personally don't like seeing my life as a mission.
Title: Re: About values
Post by: zig on October 27, 2018, 04:26:10 PM
I guess there 's a different time for different things always.....
Title: Re: About values
Post by: zig on October 27, 2018, 04:53:04 PM
I thing we 'agree' on things we wouldn't normally agree this 'Time'. I can say that for me... and I see it plentifully in others also.
Title: Re: About values
Post by: Michael on October 28, 2018, 04:19:57 PM
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-29/universal-human-rights-un-declaration-and-history/10418226
Title: Re: About values
Post by: zig on October 28, 2018, 09:13:02 PM
Something more. (Always without enter) It's a general thing (no English word came into my mind; I didn't want to use the word belief even if it could fit) that value is associated basically with what we 'have'... ~ Even in astrology, the second house (according to the specialized, at least this era on earth) is associated with possessions and values. ~ ...but the question is, is there really value in possessing and possessions ? Do we own anything ? and what ? lol ~ Laughing because I believe we don't own anything;
Title: Re: About values
Post by: runningstream on October 29, 2018, 06:47:56 AM
Ever hear the saying you take the high road and I'll take the low road and I'll get there before you ?


You can try and pull your roots out first and head to the skies as many have if you wish.


Here is the good advice of balance first to heed. At least remember the warning.

Title: Re: About values
Post by: runningstream on October 29, 2018, 06:51:10 AM
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-29/universal-human-rights-un-declaration-and-history/10418226 (https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-29/universal-human-rights-un-declaration-and-history/10418226)


There is urgency without rushing , there is an open way where there is the dragging of feet.



Title: Re: About values
Post by: zig on October 30, 2018, 12:45:57 AM
We are a happy, funny, family  ;D
Title: Re: About values
Post by: runningstream on October 30, 2018, 12:41:08 PM
Before I respond was that a serious comment or a joke.
What do you think is going on here?
Title: Re: About values
Post by: runningstream on October 30, 2018, 01:18:22 PM
Then I am targeting the whole world.
You had better believe I am serious , the warning is being impeccable infinitely beyond my own patience.
I have claimed you also so you know.
Title: Re: About values
Post by: runningstream on October 30, 2018, 01:43:39 PM
This way they must work together , so your comment is ironic in that context.
If they try to do as the highlanders do,
I expect it won't end well.
Its out of my hands and up to god.
I hand them over.
Title: Re: About values
Post by: runningstream on October 30, 2018, 01:53:48 PM
The limbs of an old tree.
Title: Re: About values
Post by: zig on November 05, 2018, 06:52:50 AM
Big old trees are great.
Title: Re: About values
Post by: runningstream on November 06, 2018, 09:02:18 AM
Of intrinsic value ,
https://youtu.be/dErhoZsb3Gc
Instead of the winners and losers.
Title: ... tuning
Post by: zig on November 14, 2018, 04:16:26 AM
Maybe for the last time ..:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--NjewHTlcI
Title: Re: About values
Post by: runningstream on November 29, 2018, 08:55:51 PM
It seems we become into what we say and to remember our first words that is the difficulty.




There will come a moment where by a decision / choice you make determines the 'opening of a door' (metaphor).


It will be taken care of.


Remembering first words , or first actions , will only be relevant to 'this'*moment, as this choice will determine a future.





Title: Re: About values
Post by: runningstream on November 30, 2018, 05:06:07 AM
Then I am talking to the whole world.
People think they know and can not, people think they are capable yet need to be helped along ,
People think they have "got this" , yet they are inside of what they think they have got.
A choice they make within themself will lead to their shift.
Despite their confidence this gap will be bridged for them and will lead them safely.


Its the way it is .
Their freedom.

Title: Re: About values
Post by: runningstream on November 30, 2018, 05:18:18 AM
If you need me to hear you go ahead , I'll hear you.