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Turns of the Road => The Double (Public) => Topic started by: nichi on September 29, 2006, 01:12:25 AM
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Whether or not you subscribe to his being extant, was Don Juan Carlos Castaneda's double?
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Three-pronged being had a four-pronged double? ;) :D
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I saw my double out in the back yard yesterday. He was sitting on one of my picnic tables, on the top, with his legs crossed and smoking a joint. I looked at him and he quacked, "What the hell you think yer looking at, civilian!??!" I about shit. "Get to work, fool! Yerr here to entertain me, so get the hell on with it! I sit around here all day looking at these damn butterflies and bees and listen to those stupid-assed squirrels arguing over whose corn that is that you keep leaving so gallantly for them! I looked at all the shit you did last week, and it looks good, but now I want to see more! You getting old or something? Ha. What a mess you are! Yerr acting like yerr getting old or something, taking so much more time to get shit done that you used to do in a day .... now it takes a frigging week, at least!"
I had to ignore all this, of course, because I thought maybe this was the day for the looney bin for me. But he wouldn't go away. So I went back in the house and watched CNN and Fox and then took a little nap, not thinking about my back yard at all. I don't know how I did it, but I did.
So I guess tonight after work I'll smoke my own bowl and go sit where my double sat and bitch at HIM!
Ha.
1 feather
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Whether or not you subscribe to his being extant, was Don Juan Carlos Castaneda's double?
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Come to think of it, Carlos didn't really have a double in the story himself, did he? (least which was called his double).
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So I guess tonight after work I'll smoke my own bowl and go sit where my double sat and bitch at HIM!
that's the way 1 feather - don't take any shit!
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Whether or not you subscribe to his being extant, was Don Juan Carlos Castaneda's double?
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Maybe you have been confused by or would like to compare wth Dellas story, I don't know her story that much but read enough to see that she have written a lot about the double. Like it was her teacher but excuse me if I am wrong about that.
Answer to your question: I am afraid No! Don Juan and Carlos Castaneda
are (were) two different, unique beings, each with their double of their own.
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So I guess tonight after work I'll smoke my own bowl and go sit where my double sat and bitch at HIM!
Ha.
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I was looking foward to hearing more about this :D
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hello Fade
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Good Morning (or evening where you are -right?)
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I was looking foward to hearing more about this :D
The bitching, the bowl or the picnic table I was sitting on?
t
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The bitching, the bowl or the picnic table I was sitting on?
t
All of it!!! :D
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I am Tom Tomforde living my life with all its planned activities. Most of my mentality is focused upon the exactness of what I do, the details. I try to get the maximum energy out of each set of actions I do, like large or small projects which I plan in detail, up to even creating a list like I were planning a party or something. I do this a lot so that all my attempts at what I do have all the impeccability which I can muster. This sounds tedious but, to me, it is very far from it. I enjoy the exactness of detail, making most of what I do an art form in itself. It is the way I am. And when I find myself "in the flow" of planning and then carrying out these plans I find out that all of my projects, enmasse, take on a life of their own, like I am compressing time as the different things I do slowly come into fruition. Like they are almost doing it themselves, if that makes any sense at all. It is a quite effortless thing for me, actually, because I do not pressure myself with time tables and deadlines. I am looking for the ultimate expression of myself in all that I do, even if that sounds quite exhausting. It is not. I guess I am saying my Intent does the work and I just follow along with whatever its design is.
But there is another part of me which only views, like a third party watching from a distance, the things I am doing as they progress but not really looking at me doing it. This "other" is viewing what I am viewing and, of course, does not participate in the activity. It is a watcher, an analyser and an appreciator, so to speak. This other part, this heightened state of awareness, is me and it also is not. Sure, in my heightened state Tommy Two Feathers spends hours looking at what Tom T. has done, soaking up the energy stored within the action of the "doing". Sometimes T2F sits back on this or that bench or chair and studies the panorama of Tommy's backyard work office area and all the detail placed there, the energy of Tommy's vision as it awakened his tonal. T2F vibrates in the Nagual presence of what is being captured in the two seperate attentions on the one physical being. Can you see it, feel it, Daphne? Two "beings" living one simultaneous life energy as doer and observer, totally aware of each other's existence in and out of time, in and out of physicality, yet intermingled in a seperate second attention beyond thought-presence itself, being its own Self, alive and all-inclusive. Or are there just too many words which I just crammed in altogether here?
What I am alluding to is that there are two us, each of us. We are a mindfulness, a mirror of what "we are doing". We are also doers in distinct no-thought activities when we "get lost" in what we are doing, like a walking meditation, so to speak. We are a personality (i.e., ego) and we are an all-inclusive entity (i.e., an energy form). One has emotions and the other not. One, in a Nagual sense, is not-doing while is other is the ordinary Tonal, doing awareness. Most of the time folk never see the distinction between the two, always trapped in some mental scenario involving what they call "luck" or "chance" or something. They are not aware of the control that can be had of ones' life if both sides of the person, the first and second attentiions, can be brought to bear upon perception. In other words, Dear, they miss the symphony going on entirely. They just don't hear it. They say shit like, "Oh, well, I'm here. Just another day of the same old crap. What's the point, we're gonna die, anyway. Ho-hum." Whatever!
I watch myself watching myself. I do things in a non-self way, being only the activity. I make the time for quietness and the times for laughter and also time to just work at my life. I know T2F is there on top the picnic table that Tom T. sweat while hammering together. I am Tom T. as I flip T2F "the bird" because I know he might just be my imagination or maybe my greater self. I am, WE ARE, much more than the sum of these two parts because I walk on the edge of life because I need to always strain ever so more intently at that symphony of everywhere.
Have I lost you yet? Ask your double and I'll ask mine. Which one am I now, as I type?
Does it matter? It surely must, don't you think?
t
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*Have I lost you yet? *
Not completely, but you gave me tons to think about ty ;)
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Your signature picture is beautiful!!! :-*
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Thank You!
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Thanks tommy - that was beautiful!
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Got it T/2F's :)
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I am Tom Tomforde living my life with all its planned activities. Most of my mentality is focused upon the exactness of what I do, the details. I try to get the maximum energy out of each set of actions I do, like large or small projects which I plan in detail, up to even creating a list like I were planning a party or something. I do this a lot so that all my attempts at what I do have all the impeccability which I can muster. This sounds tedious but, to me, it is very far from it. I enjoy the exactness of detail, making most of what I do an art form in itself. It is the way I am. And when I find myself "in the flow" of planning and then carrying out these plans I find out that all of my projects, enmasse, take on a life of their own, like I am compressing time as the different things I do slowly come into fruition. Like they are almost doing it themselves, if that makes any sense at all.
It does make sense. Actually it takes quite some time to become the master of the details. "The answer is in the details" Carlos once proclaimed in a interview and it is much truth in that. Remember for instance how a warrior never leaves any trace where he or her have been. Compare that with all the garbage people leave where they have been sitting.
To put concern and attention to the small things, also to the grey unnoticed or even unwanted people like you do 2Tf is a part of the greater lesson. I have for instance always kept an eye on the slightly retarded in this town. Checked their shape and current health status and keep them in my mental record. There is a women that have their parents living almost next door that I like but my wife somewhat "flunked" further connections with her. It is not that I have to know them personally but this women would have been a great opportunity to extend to.
As early in my young ages I cared for a slighly retarded guy that went with us in our American car on cruising and joined our parties, and saw the value in that. I always talked to him about social things when I met him but it didn't work well for him later in life, he died in his 40:ies.
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I have seen this debated time and time again.
No. He was not carlos's double. Don Juan existed. Me meeting the indian with the funny eye who handed me the marbles, with the hole in the bag, proved to me don juan existed and was not carlos's double.
I cant explain it. Just that man proved to me, don Juan was a real encounter Carlos had.
Dont lose your marbles. Yep.