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Action [Public] / Re: The Dune Worm, Junk Science, and Messing With The Meds
« Last post by Firestarter on February 22, 2025, 03:52:42 AM »
A little more on this:

https://www.npr.org/2025/01/29/nx-s1-5276898/rfk-drugs-addiction-overdose-hhs-confirmation-trump

RFK Jr. says he'll fix the overdose crisis. Critics say his plan is risky
January 29, 20257:00 AM ET

When Robert F. Kennedy Jr. talks about the journey that led to his growing focus on health and wellness — and ultimately to his confirmation hearings this week for U.S. secretary of health and human services — it begins not with medical training or a background in research, but with his own addiction to heroin and other drugs.




"I became a drug addict when I was 15 years old," Kennedy said last year during an interview with podcaster Lex Fridman. "I was addicted for 14 years. During that time, when you're an addict, you're living against conscience ... and you kind of push God to the peripheries of your life."

Kennedy now credits his faith; 12-step Alcoholics Anonymous-style programs, which also have a spiritual foundation; and the influence of a book by philosopher Carl Jung for helping him beat his own opioid addiction.

If confirmed as head of the Department of Health and Human Services after Senate hearings scheduled for Wednesday and Thursday, Kennedy would hold broad sway over many of the biggest federal programs in the U.S. tackling addiction: the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the National Institute on Drug Abuse and the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration.

While campaigning for the White House last year, Kennedy, now 71 years old, laid out a plan to tackle the United States' devastating fentanyl and overdose crisis, proposing a sprawling new system of camps or farms where people experiencing addiction would be sent to recover.

"I'm going to bring a new industry to [rural] America, where addicts can help each other recover from their addictions," Kennedy promised, during a film on addiction released by his presidential campaign. "We're going to build hundreds of healing farms where American kids can reconnect with America's soil."

Some addiction activists — especially those loyal to the 12-step faith- and values-based recovery model — have praised Kennedy's approach and are actively campaigning for his confirmation.

"RFK Jr is in recovery. He wants to expand the therapeutic community model for recovering addicts," Tom Wolf, a San Francisco-based activist who is in recovery from fentanyl and opioid addiction, wrote on the social media site X. "I support him for HHS secretary."

A focus on 12-step and spirituality, not medication and science-based treatment
But Kennedy's approach to addiction care is controversial, described by many drug policy experts as risky, in part because it focuses on the moral dimension of recovery rather than modern, science-based medication and health care.

"He clearly cares about addicted people," said Keith Humphreys, a leading national drug policy researcher at Stanford University. "But in terms of the plans he's articulated, I have real doubts about them."

According to Humphreys, Kennedy's plan to build a network of farms or camps doesn't appear to include facilities that offer proper medical treatments for seriously ill people facing severe addiction.

"That's a risk to the well-being of patients, and I don't see any merit in doing that," Humphreys said.

"I think [Kennedy's plan] would be an enormous step backward," said Maia Szalavitz, an author and activist who used heroin and other drugs before entering recovery.

"We have spent the last 15, 20 years trying to move away from treating addiction as a sin rather than a medical disorder," she said. "We've spent many years trying to get people to take up these medications that we know cut your death risk in half, and he seems to want to go backwards on all that."

Health
U.S. overdose deaths continue a rapid decline
The vast majority of researchers, doctors and front-line addiction treatment workers agree that scientific data shows medications like buprenorphine, methadone and naloxone are game changers when it comes to treating the deadliest street drugs, including fentanyl and heroin.

The Biden administration moved aggressively to make medical treatments far more affordable and widely available. Many experts believe those programs are factors in the dramatic national drop in overdose deaths that began in 2023.

Kennedy, who studied law and political science, not health care, before becoming an activist on subjects ranging from pharmaceuticals and vaccines to the American diet, has remained largely silent on the subject of science-based medical treatments for opioid addiction.

His campaign film included a scene that appeared to blame methadone — a prescription medication that has been used to treat opioid addiction since the 1970s — for some of the high-risk street-drug use visible on the streets of San Francisco.

In public statements, Kennedy has also repeated the inaccurate claim that the addiction and overdose crisis isn't improving. In fact, fatal overdoses have dropped nationally by more than 20% since June 2023, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, falling below 90,000 deaths in a 12-month period for the first time in half a decade.

"What we have mostly heard from Kennedy is a skepticism broadly of medications and a focus on the 12-step and faith-based therapy," said Vanda Felbab-Brown, an expert on drug policy at the Brookings Institution, a Washington, D.C., think tank.

"That appeals to a lot of crucial groups that have supported President Trump in the election. But we know what is fundamental for recovery and stabilization of people's lives and reducing overdose is access to medications," Felbab-Brown said. "Unfortunately, many of the 12-step programs reject medications."

She's worried that under Kennedy's leadership, the Department of Health and Human Services could shrink or eliminate funding for science-based medical treatment and instead focus on spirituality-based approaches that appear to help a relatively small percentage of people who experience addiction.

Kennedy's views on other science-based treatments, including vaccines, have sparked widespread opposition among medical researchers and physicians.

Kennedy boosts an Italian model for addiction recovery that has faced controversy
Another concern about Kennedy's addiction proposals focuses on his interest in a program for drug treatment created in Italy in the 1970s.

"I've seen this beautiful model that they have in Italy called San Patrignano, where there are 2,000 kids who work on a large farm in a healing center ... and that's what we need to build here," Kennedy said during a town hall-style appearance on the cable channel NewsNation last year.

According to Kennedy's plan, outlined in interviews and social media posts, Americans experiencing addiction would go to San Patrignano-style camps voluntarily, or they could be pressured or coerced into accepting care, with a threat of incarceration for those who refuse care.

But the San Patrignano program has been controversial and was featured in a 2020 Netflix documentary that included images of people with addiction allegedly being held in shackles or confined in cages. The farm's current leaders have described the documentary as biased and unfair.

RFK Jr. made $856,559 in referral fees from the law firm Wisner Baum, which is suing Merck over claims its HPV vaccine caused cervical cancer, according to new filings with the Office of Government Ethics.

RFK Jr. plans to keep a financial stake in lawsuits against the drugmaker Merck
Kennedy, meanwhile, has continued to use the program as a model for the camps he would like to build in the United States.

"I'm going to build these rehab centers all over the country, these healing camps where people can go, where our children can go and find themselves again," he said.

Szalavitz, the author and activist who is herself in recovery, noted that the Italian program doesn't include science-based medical care, including opioid treatment medications. She said Kennedy's fascination with the model reflects a lack of medical and scientific expertise.

"It really is great to include people who have personal experience of something like, say, addiction in policymaking. But you don't become an addiction expert simply because you're someone who struggled with addiction," Szalavitz said. "You have to engage with the research literature. You have to understand more beyond your own narrow anecdote. Otherwise you're going to wind up doing harm to people."












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Action [Public] / The Dune Worm, Junk Science, and Messing With The Meds
« Last post by Firestarter on February 21, 2025, 03:52:13 PM »
I knew that fool RFK JR would get appointed to the Health shit. I knew our country was going down the toilet, and that Orange Cheetolini would appoint that Worm-Eating-Brain heroin addict to be in charge of our health.

That overly cooked idiot, is wanting to come for the antidepressants, and other drugs, like mood stabilizers and antipsychotics. I take the latter. That gross, greasy, ignorant sack of dogshit, is going to cause a massive mental health crisis if he gets his way.

I'm taking it to it's own thread cause we got to track this. That idiot thinks these drugs cause the mass shootings. This guy breaks down the insanity. Talks about vaccines too.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrE9nkuPqZQ
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Action [Public] / Re: King Trump and the Revolution
« Last post by Firestarter on February 20, 2025, 04:22:43 PM »
Sorry for the static. I need a new mic.
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Action [Public] / King Trump and the Revolution
« Last post by Firestarter on February 20, 2025, 04:21:37 PM »
Had a nice rant and did a reading tonight for the bots to watch.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWfeoFzRMQ4&t=7s
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Action [Public] / Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Last post by Firestarter on February 20, 2025, 07:48:29 AM »
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Action [Public] / Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Last post by Firestarter on February 20, 2025, 07:40:49 AM »
"War is Peace - Freedom is Slavery" yada yada. 2+2 does not = 4 in America anymore. I am DISGUSTED.

We have a true antichrist running this country. And idiots elected him. Not thinking of the ramifications and where it could take us. We have a total LIAR AND GASLIGHTER, who is saying, Zelenskyy, who has done nothing but show bravery and courage under fire, calling him a dictator, and saying Ukraine started the war.

IT IS UTTERLY REVOLTING. And this nasty talk, has got Europe totally worried about their fate. They may need to link arms to protect themselves, with Canada. This is so ugly and nasty, what he is doing. The only thing that gives me peace, is he is old, and can't live forever.

But the damage he is doing, and can do, and will do, I do not want to even know. I really don't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQhChYQ8XnE
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Action [Public] / Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Last post by Firestarter on February 20, 2025, 04:42:55 AM »
This is absolutely disgusting. But not surprising of the American Putin Puppet. Servicemen and women are rolling in their graves over this. Europe is at risk as well, not just Ukraine. The karma is immense for this. Trump deserves hell for many reasons. But esp this.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-says-dictator-zelenskyy-better-move-fast-on-ukraine/ar-AA1zltIo?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Trump says 'dictator' Zelenskyy 'better move fast' on Ukraine
9m • 6 min read

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy hit back at President Donald Trump's call for the country to hold fresh presidential elections following Tuesday's historic Russia-U.S. talks in Saudi Arabia.

The U.S.-Russia talks in Riyadh -- to which Ukraine was not invited -- represented "an important step forward" toward ending Russia's three-year-old invasion of its neighbor, according to a State Department readout.

Hours after the talks concluded on Tuesday, Trump told reporters at Mar-a-Lago that Zelenskyy's public approval rating was "down to 4%," failing to provide a source for the figure. Russian President Vladimir Putin has also repeatedly framed Zelenskyy as illegitimate, citing the postponement of the country's 2024 presidential elections due to martial law.

During a Wednesday press conference in Kyiv, Zelenskyy challenged Trump's claim, pointing to respected recent surveys showing him polling consistently above 50% with voters and describing Trump's assertion as Russian "disinformation."

"If someone wants to replace me right now, then right now it won't work," Zelenskyy said. "If we are talking about 4% then we have seen this disinformation, we understand that it comes from Russia. And we have evidence."

The Ukrainian president said he would conduct opinion polls for trust ratings for world leaders, including Trump, British Prime Minister Keir Starmer and Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan.

Zelenskyy said he took Trump's comments "calmly."

"As for President Trump, with all due respect to him as a leader of the American people, who we deeply respect and are thankful for all his support, but President Trump, unfortunately, is living in this disinformation space," Zelenskyy continued.

Meanwhile, Trump on Wednesday, without providing evidence, called the Ukrainian president a "Dictator without Elections," writing on Truth Social that Zelenskyy "better move fast or he is not going to have a Country left."

MORE: US and Russia agree to try to end war without Ukraine at the table

Putin addresses US-Russia meeting
In Riyadh, the U.S. and Russia agreed to appoint as-yet-unnamed special representatives to continue peace talks, according to the Russian Foreign Ministry.

Addressing the Russian parliament on Wednesday, Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov -- who led Moscow's team in Riyadh -- told lawmakers "the atmosphere is positive, the intentions are correct, we will see how the situation develops further, what decisions will be made."

"The main thing is to meet, listen and hear, make decisions that will be realistic," he added.

Putin -- in his first public comments since the talks -- said on Wednesday he had been informed of the results of the meeting in Riyadh, and that the meeting "passed in a very well-meaning manner in general."

"As our participants told me, those were absolutely different people on the American side, who were open to a negotiating process, without any bias and without any disapproval of what's been done in the past. At least there was none of that during the bilateral contacts," Putin said.

The Russian leader said the talks were intended as a trust-building exercise, which produced positive outcomes, saying the "purpose of this meeting was to elevate confidence between Russia and the U.S."

Putin also said he would be happy to meet with Trump in person, though he did not offer any information on when such a meeting might occur.

"It must be prepared. I would gladly meet with Donald, I have not seen him for a long time. We don't have any close relations, but still, we have met in past years, in the four years of his presidency, and discussed relations between our states in a very level way. I would be glad to meet him now, too. And I think he would, too," Putin said.

Putin aide Yuri Ushakov told the state-controlled Channel One television channel that Trump's Ukraine-Russia envoy -- Keith Kellogg -- would negotiate a settlement with Kyiv and European nations.

Kellogg arrived in Kyiv on Wednesday morning, where he is expected to hold talks with Ukrainian leaders.

Kellogg told reporters his "mission is to sit and listen" and then report back to Trump. He parried questions about whether Trump is siding with Putin, saying Trump wants to end the war because "he understands the human suffering" it's causing.

Kellogg said he agrees with Trump that the war would never have begun if he had been president at the time.

Russia launches drone strike on Ukraine in wake of talks
Hours after the U.S.-Russia discussions concluded with a commitment to continue talks, Russia launched a major missile and drone barrage into Ukraine. Ukraine's air force reported 167 drones and two Iskander ballistic missiles launched into the country, with 106 intercepted and 56 more lost in flight.

Odesa Mayor Gennadiy Trukhanov reported a "massive enemy strike on a densely populated area of ​​the city" causing electricity, heating and water outages.

Zelenskyy said in a post to social media that the strike targeted "civilian energy facilities," in keeping with longstanding Russian doctrine. "For nearly three years now, the Russian army has relentlessly used missiles and attack drones against them," he said.

"Just yesterday, after the notorious meeting in Riyadh, it became clear that Russian representatives were once again lying, claiming they do not target Ukraine's energy sector," Zelenskyy continued.

"Yet, almost simultaneously, they launched another attack, with drones striking electrical transformers," he wrote. "And this is during winter -- it was minus 6 degrees Celsius at night."

"We must never forget that Russia is ruled by pathological liars -- they cannot be trusted and must be pressured," the president said.

Trump says Ukraine has 'had a seat for 3 years'
Kyiv's exclusion from the Saudi talks has badly unsettled Ukraine and its European allies. Trump was unapologetic when speaking with reporters Tuesday at his Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida, just as Odesa came under attack.

"They've had a seat for three years and a long time before that," Trump said of Ukraine, suggesting Kyiv could have made a deal with Moscow to avoid the huge loss of lives and land.

Trump said he believes he has "the power to end this war," while falsely claiming Ukraine started the conflict against Russia. The war began when Moscow launched its full-scale invasion of its neighbor in February 2022, a campaign that followed eight years of cross-border Russian aggression in Crimea and Ukraine's eastern Donbas region.

"I think it's going very well," Trump said of U.S. efforts to end the war. "But today I heard, oh, 'Well, we weren't invited.' Well, you've been there for three years. You should have ended it three years -- you should have never started it."


Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy arrives to meet with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Feb. 15, 2025 in Munich, Germany.
Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy arrives to meet with German Chancellor Olaf Scholz on Feb. 15, 2025 in Munich, Germany.
© Sean Gallup/Getty Images
Speaking on Wednesday, Zelenskyy criticized the Trump administration's recent demand for a treaty that would hand over 50% of Ukraine's natural resources to the U.S., in exchange for no security guarantees. Trump himself has repeatedly said he wants $500 billion worth of Ukraine's rare minerals to pay back the U.S. for its support during Russia's invasion.

Zelenskyy said such a demand was "not serious," and corrected Trump's claim that the U.S. has provided more money than Europe.

"There wasn't a word there about security guarantees," he said. "There is nothing precise there. I can't sell the state."

UK 'ready' to put troops in Ukraine to support Russia peace deal, PM says

Zelenskyy said that if Ukraine cannot join NATO, it needs a strong army backed by Western weapons and air defense. He said Ukraine was looking for a troop contingent from European countries to help protect Ukraine after a ceasefire, but warned that Ukraine's own troops needed to be backed by air defense, which only the U.S. can provide.

"Only the Americans, President Donald Trump, have this protection, this air defense, it's exclusively from them, and that's what's important," Zelenskyy said. "We have a map that shows us this, but we are ready for dialogue, for discussion, about what quantity, how much is needed. We've calculated everything; we've figured it all out. So this is essentially the main point of what we are requesting."

Zelenskyy suggested Tuesday that the U.S.-Russia talks in Riyadh merely revived ultimatums issued by Moscow in the early stages of its invasion.

"I have the impression that there are now some negotiations happening and they have the same mood, but between Russia and the United States," Zelenskyy said during a visit to Turkey.

"Again, about Ukraine without Ukraine," he added. "It's interesting, if Ukraine didn't yield to ultimatums in the most difficult moment, where does the feeling come from that Ukraine will agree to this now?"

"I never intended to yield to Russia's ultimatums and I don't intend to now," Zelenskyy added.

ABC News' Fidel Pavlenko, Oleksiy Pshemyskiy, Joe Simonetti, Will Gretsky, Anastasia Bagaeva and Meredith Deliso contributed to this report.











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Action [Public] / Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Last post by Firestarter on February 19, 2025, 03:03:32 PM »
2:14pm

Is 14:14pm

I did -not- time that.

Yeah I think the My Pillow Guy did something like this too. No surprise there.
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Action [Public] / Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Last post by Dramática on February 19, 2025, 02:46:21 PM »
2:14pm

Is 14:14pm

I did -not- time that.
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Action [Public] / Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Last post by Dramática on February 19, 2025, 02:44:10 PM »
Elon posted 14 flags at 1414 p.m. on President's Day. If you don't know what that means... Search "14 dog whistle"
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