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Gurdjieff [Public] / Re: In Search of the Miraculous
« Last post by Firestarter on February 12, 2025, 03:25:24 AM »
People DEFINITELY hold onto their suffering. I saved this a couple days ago and sent it to my ex. That’s actually why I broke up with him. People become identified with their suffering for many reasons. In his case some of the reasons why are fear. If you use suffering as an identity it can keep you from moving forward in life as an excuse … like doing hard things that make you uncomfortable in the short term.

I don’t think it’s that they want to suffer per se …. But that they perceive growth as a more painful kind of suffering. But there are many many reasons why people hold onto their suffering….plus … once again …it’s all momentum.

I think a lot of it is a matter of belief/ignorance as well. Like when someone says “well … that’s just the way I am”. And accept their misery.  Someone may see sadness and heaviness as “their personality” and not know it’s just a sensation in their body that can be transformed. In *my* belief system everything is just energy and can be transformed … but others may not have such a fluid belief system. I certainly didn’t use to. ….. but now I look at people that experience a lot of anger and fear and think “ugh…….why would you want to do that?” They just don’t know they have options 🤷‍♀️

I think that may be so. The karmic was like that. Like he would say "I'm not happy" like in general, and somehow act like it was MY JOB to make him happy. But we know that. A person may make you happy, but they can only go so far. Deep seated loathing for one's life, another perwson cannot fix that.  But like when he would complain about his job or health, I would try to point out positives, like on job. He lives where he works and doesn't have to pay rent, utilities, wi-fi, he would just sit there with a pained face like his life was so terrible. He had NO bills outstanding. Just whining and complaining about his life all the time. I would leave there like...the bitching I endured how he hates his life so much. I was over it. It was no wonder he tried to get me to come back for ten months. He needed a sounding board to bitch to. I was over it by then. Totally over it.
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Gurdjieff [Public] / Re: In Search of the Miraculous
« Last post by Bornamber on February 11, 2025, 11:10:20 PM »
People DEFINITELY hold onto their suffering. I saved this a couple days ago and sent it to my ex. That’s actually why I broke up with him. People become identified with their suffering for many reasons. In his case some of the reasons why are fear. If you use suffering as an identity it can keep you from moving forward in life as an excuse … like doing hard things that make you uncomfortable in the short term.

I don’t think it’s that they want to suffer per se …. But that they perceive growth as a more painful kind of suffering. But there are many many reasons why people hold onto their suffering….plus … once again …it’s all momentum.

I think a lot of it is a matter of belief/ignorance as well. Like when someone says “well … that’s just the way I am”. And accept their misery.  Someone may see sadness and heaviness as “their personality” and not know it’s just a sensation in their body that can be transformed. In *my* belief system everything is just energy and can be transformed … but others may not have such a fluid belief system. I certainly didn’t use to. ….. but now I look at people that experience a lot of anger and fear and think “ugh…….why would you want to do that?” They just don’t know they have options 🤷‍♀️
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Action [Public] / Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Last post by Firestarter on February 11, 2025, 09:00:46 AM »
I figured this was coming cause he has to mark of beast it on up. And the investment into AI is 500 billion per Trump agreement.

https://www.reuters.com/markets/deals/elon-musk-led-group-makes-974-billion-bid-control-openai-wsj-reports-2025-02-10/

Musk-led group makes $97.4 billion bid for control of OpenAI
By Arsheeya Bajwa

February 10, 20251:55 PM PSTUpdated 3 min ago



Feb 10 (Reuters) - A consortium led by Elon Musk said on Monday it has offered $97.4 billion to buy the nonprofit that controls OpenAI, months after the billionaire sued the artificial intelligence startup to block it from transitioning to a for-profit firm.
Musk's bid could ratchet up longstanding tensions with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman over the future of the startup at the heart of a boom in generative AI technology.
Altman promptly posted on X: "no thank you but we will buy twitter for $9.74 billion if you want."

The two are already embroiled in an ongoing lawsuit. Musk criticized a $500 billion OpenAI-led project called Stargate announced with great fanfare at the White House just after President Donald Trump returned to office, suggesting the investors involved lacked the funding for the project.
"It's time for OpenAI to return to the open-source, safety-focused force for good it once was," Musk said in the press release. "We will make sure that happens."

OpenAI, Musk, Musk's attorney Marc Toberoff and OpenAI backer Microsoft (MSFT.O), opens new tab did not immediately respond to Reuters' requests for comment.
The bid is being backed by Musk's AI company xAI, which could merge with OpenAI following a deal, according to the Wall Street Journal which first reported Musk's offer earlier on Monday.
Even without any antitrust implications, a deal this size would need Musk and his consortium to raise enormous funds.

OpenAI was valued at $157 billion in its latest funding round in October, cementing its status as one of the most valuable private companies in the world. SoftBank Group (9984.T), opens new tab is in talks to lead a funding round of up to $40 billion in OpenAI at a valuation of $300 billion, including the new funds, Reuters reported in January.
Musk cofounded OpenAI with Altman in 2015, but left before the company took off. He founded the competing AI startup xAI in 2023.

OpenAI is now trying to transition into a for-profit from a nonprofit entity, which it says is required to secure the capital needed for developing the best artificial intelligence models.
Musk's lawsuit against OpenAI and Altman says the founders originally approached him to fund a nonprofit focused on developing AI to benefit humanity, but that it was now focused on making money.

Reporting by Arsheeya Bajwa in Bengaluru Writing by Sayantani Ghosh Editing by Anil D'Silva, David Gaffen and Matthew Lewis













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Gurdjieff [Public] / Re: In Search of the Miraculous
« Last post by Firestarter on February 11, 2025, 07:49:54 AM »
Ok here are my questions for Michael.

He was saying man will give up pleasures but not his suffering. Or could also say habits. I had to ponder on this a lot. I don't think anyone wishes to suffer. But sure, I can see folks sometimes holding onto things which may cause. Bad marriages or relationships. Soul sucking jobs. But actually holding onto suffering. Is he saying man wants to suffer? I think the only way a person may hold onto things which cause suffering, is the hope the suffering will go away, if they put work into it. That of course doesn't always happen.

Two, when he was talking about sex center, I am going to assume he meant sacral chakra. He was saying this one can dominate (I could see that). But he confused me whether celibacy was a strength, which I am sure it is. But he was also saying later after a man has remembered himself (I think) that this didn't necessarily have to be a thing, celibacy. But what was weird to me he felt this the more dominant chakra. But I have always felt the heart chakra is more. Like if you can fix that, you can align the rest. He seems to say the same about the sacral chakra, I am assuming this he means sex center. Can you elaborate?
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Action [Public] / Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Last post by Firestarter on February 08, 2025, 06:31:59 AM »
Great! We got a Biblical prophecy of rivers turning to BLOOD.

https://apnews.com/article/argentina-buenos-aires-river-red-industrial-leak-41a713c0ecdadadf204c330465a3f7e9

‘It looks like a stream of blood.’ A river near Buenos Aires turns red, sparking fears of toxic leak

BUENOS AIRES (AP) — A stream winding through a populous area on the outskirts of Buenos Aires has turned crimson red in recent hours, sparking fears of industrial chemical dumping, images shared by residents on social media showed Friday.





The Sarandí stream, near Villa Inflamable, in the municipality of Avellaneda, is home to tanneries and other industries that transform animal skins into leather using chemicals. Images of the blood-red waterway captured by residents quickly spread on social media, evoking apocalyptic imagery.

María Ducomls, a local resident, described waking early one recent morning to powerful odors.

“At 5:30 a.m., we already had a special and hazardous waste incinerator spewing pollutants into the air,” she told The Associated Press. Shortly after, she noticed the stream, “It looks like a stream of blood; we have never seen it like this,” she said.

Officials from the municipality of Avellaneda, about 15 kilometers (9 miles) south of the Argentine capital, suspect the presence of aniline, a toxic substance used in dyes and medicines.

Following the collection of water samples, they filed a complaint with the Buenos Aires province ministry of infrastructure and public services, which will lead an investigation.

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Action [Public] / Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Last post by Firestarter on February 07, 2025, 03:18:29 PM »
These people are SO flowerING STUPID. AOC, breaks down the entire game succinctly. Why is Felon Muskrat downloading everything? They are looking for ways to give to the rich. I knew of the big tax breaks the Deluded Melon gave the rich in 2017. I knew they expire this year. We all did. Democrats TRIED to tell the ignorant and gullible. But to give massive cuts, the tax money has to come from somewhere. So you gotta cut cut cut spending on essential programs. Up taxes on poor and what is left of the middle class. Cut programs they need. Medicaid, school lunches, even the Dept of Ed. Down the list they go, all to feed the rich.

Will the Maggots wake up? Or will they sit there, paying 50 cents more per egg at Waffle House, cheering cause The Tiny Handed Wombat ended trans folks in sports, and is deporting innocent folks cause they are brown? But the insulin goes up, they don't get health care, and they pay God knows how much more. A bunch of homeless, disabled maggots crying in the streets, but saying he is the best president ever.

Anyway she speaks the truth. One of the few who is not owned in DC. The scoop.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVgNJf6CsBA&t=2957s
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Action [Public] / Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Last post by Firestarter on February 07, 2025, 05:49:13 AM »
I suspected AI is involved, and soon he will have profiles on all Americans to usher in the Mark of the Beast.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/elon-musk-s-doge-is-feeding-sensitive-federal-data-into-ai-to-target-cuts/ar-AA1yxMHV?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Elon Musk’s DOGE is feeding sensitive federal data into AI to target cuts
Story by Hannah Natanson, Gerrit De Vynck, Elizabeth Dwoskin, Danielle Douglas-Gabriel • 1h • 5 min read

Representatives from Elon Musk’s U.S. DOGE Service have fed sensitive data from across the Education Department into artificial intelligence software to probe the agency’s programs and spending, according to two people with knowledge of the DOGE team’s actions.

The AI probe includes data with personally identifiable information for people who manage grants, as well as sensitive internal financial data, the two people said. They described DOGE activities at the Education Department on the condition of anonymity due to fear of retaliation.

The DOGE team is using AI software accessed through Microsoft’s cloud computing service Azure to pore through every dollar of money the department disburses, from contracts to grants to work trip expenses, one of the people said. Lower level department staffers were directed by agency leadership to let Musk’s teams access the sensitive financial data, the person said.

The use of AI inside the Department of Education, which has not previously been reported, shows how Musk’s group, which includes former employees from his tech empire, is tapping the favorite tool of Silicon Valley as part of its mission to drastically slash the size and functions of the federal government.

At the Department of Education, the DOGE’s team aims to radically reduce spending and ultimately shrink the department and its staff, the people said — helping further the Trump administration’s push to get rid of it entirely.

The DOGE team plans to replicate this process across many departments and agencies, accessing the back-end software at different parts of the government and then using AI technology to extract and sift through information about spending on employees and programs, including DEI initiatives, according to another person familiar with the DOGE process, who also spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to describe it.

Like other tech leaders, Musk has frequently championed AI as a tool capable of rapidly making sense of data and situations that can confuse humans. However, because of the technology’s risks, many private-sector companies and U.S. government departments have banned workers from using it on secure materials.

Feeding sensitive data into AI software puts it into the possession of a system’s operator, increasing the chances it will be leaked or swept up in cyberattacks. AI can also make errors, for example hallucinating incorrect information when summarizing data.

Microsoft Azure can be used to access AI tools made by many different companies, and it is unclear which the DOGE workers used. Representatives from DOGE and Microsoft declined to comment. A spokesperson for the White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Madi Biedermann, deputy assistant secretary for communications at the Education Department, wrote in a statement Thursday that the DOGE representatives are federal employees who possess the requisite security clearances and background checks.

Staffers “are focused on making the Department more cost-efficient, effective, and accountable to the taxpayers,” Biedermann said. “There is nothing inappropriate or nefarious going on.”

DOGE’s use of AI inside the Education Department is a significant departure from the Biden administration’s policy on the technology, which encouraged federal agencies to use the technology only after developing tests and guidelines to ensure that its use didn’t compromise privacy and cybersecurity.

Musk’s group has rapidly taken over government offices tasked with controlling payments, human resources and IT for the federal government. The Technology Transformation Services section of the General Services Administration, a group established during the Obama administration to make government platforms more accessible and intuitive, has become a key tool of the DOGE campaign.

In a Monday meeting, Thomas Shedd, a former Tesla employee who was named head of the TTS last month, told workers there that the group would be a “centralized place” to collect government contracts so they could be analyzed with AI, according to a recording obtained by The Washington Post.

Alondra Nelson, who worked on AI policy at the White House Office of Science and Technology Policy during the Biden administration, said in an interview that most Americans are skeptical of AI and don’t want it being used in government, especially if it’s unclear how it’s being deployed.

“Do we want these tools unleashed in government and society without guardrails?” she said. “There’s a lot of concern and mistrust about the use of AI in American society.”

The DOGE team’s AI-fueled campaign to winnow down the Education Department has already identified dozens of contracts as targets for cuts, two of the people familiar with the group’s work said. They have indicated their intention is to eliminate every contract that is not essential to operations or required by law, according to one of the people.

“That’s the way you kill an agency, is you remove all [of] their ability to perform their role,” the person said.

And the DOGE team has already used its access to the Education Department’s data to enact significant changes. By the end of January, DOGE members had gained entrée to data on federal student aid, including the personal information for millions who receive student loans from the government — and to information on department personnel and trainings, according to three people with knowledge of the team’s access.

Working swiftly last week, one of the people said, the Musk team used information on past trainings to place roughly 100 people on paid administrative leave in compliance with Trump’s executive order forbidding federal diversity, equity or inclusion efforts. The vast majority of people placed on leave had signed up for a single diversity training, The Post previously reported, some of them because it helped fulfill a job requirement.

The vast majority of the people are still on leave as of Thursday, according to Sheria Smith, president of the union which represents Education Department employees — and most of them are female or non-White, she said.

A staffer inside the Education Department said the DOGE team is working with almost unbelievable speed, not just at his agency but across the government. On Wednesday alone, DOGE representatives gained access to sensitive health payments at the Department of Health and Human Services and began seeking data from the Labor Department and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, The Post reported.

“They have a playbook, which is to get access to the data,” the staffer said. “And once they’re in, it’s already over.”

Aaron Schaffer, Razzan Nakhlawi and Laura Meckler contributed to this report









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Action [Public] / Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Last post by Firestarter on February 07, 2025, 05:37:46 AM »
Of course it is rejected. So what is the next move by US and Israel?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-gaza-takeover-proposal-rejected-by-palestinians/ar-AA1yw4wz?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Trump Gaza takeover proposal rejected by Palestinians
2h • 4 min read

Palestinians in Gaza and abroad are rejecting a proposal by President Donald Trump that the United States "take over" the Gaza Strip and lead the redevelopment of the war-ravaged territory.

Palestinians interviewed by ABC News said they yearn to rebuild Gaza for themselves, the only place they say they have or will ever call home.

"This is not going to be accepted by any Palestinian, we will reject this totally," said Abu Anton Al-Zabadi. "And if Trump is interested in the wellbeing of the Israeli people, America is a great country, it's powerful and has lots of land -- and if he wants to take in the Israelis to the U.S., he can do so. But this is our land, this is our homeland and this will never be accepted by any Palestinian. We are staying here."

MORE: Unpacking Trump's brazen proposal for a US takeover of Gaza: ANALYSIS

Tens of thousands of homes and cultural centers have been destroyed -- including schools, churches, mosques and stadiums -- and entire neighborhoods have been turned to rubble amid the monthslong Israeli retaliation following Hamas' Oct. 7, 2023, terrorist attack on Israel. More than 45,000 Palestinians have been killed with thousands more wounded, according to the Gaza Health Ministry.

In a news conference Tuesday with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, Trump said he hoped to "level the site" and rebuild it, after earlier saying Palestinians living there should leave and go to other areas or countries.

"The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip, and we will do a job with it, too," Trump said. "We'll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site. Level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings. Level it out."

Some human rights groups have accused Israel of committing genocide and ethnic cleansing in carrying out its war with Hamas. Some of the Palestinians ABC News spoke to fear Trump's comments about relocating Gazans are an extension of an effort to permanently displace them.

Many have lived or have been connected to Gaza for generations, recalling memories of swimming in the Mediterranean Sea, lounging on the beach with their families and visiting some of the world's oldest historical sites found in Gaza before the war and bloodshed. It's where they grew up, went to school and raised their families.

Some Palestinians had refused to leave Gaza despite the Israel-Hamas war and said they don't plan on following Trump's whims about casting them aside now, either.

"This is a very difficult decision for the people of Gaza, since they have lived through nearly 15 months of terror, killing, displacement and migration," said Fouad Hatem Al Kurdi, a Jabalia Camp Resident. "Despite that, they stayed in their land and did not leave. After 15 months of suffering, no one will leave here ... I live here, I know my work, I know how to build it, I know everything here."

"It is impossible for anyone to leave their country and sell their country, despite the steadfastness and pain we have experienced," said Muhammad Zarouk, a resident of Al-Shati Camp. "I will not leave, it is impossible. I will sacrifice my blood in order to stay here in my land."

"Either I die in Gaza or I live in Gaza," Amer Al-Sawafiri, another Palestinian in Gaza told ABC News. "Those who were displaced suffered a lot ... I cannot leave my country and my family. Where will I go?"

"As for me, my children and my family, we will stand firm," said Ilham Al-Durra, a Palestinian in Gaza. "I will not leave. This is my land, my country, I will not leave."

Palestinian refugee Hani Almadhoun told ABC News he lost two brothers in the war, one who was a co-founder of the Gaza Soup Kitchen that provided food for Gazans amid the threat of famine during the Israel-Hamas war.

Almadhoun said his focus now is still on ensuring that people have food, medical care, and other necessities amid the ongoing humanitarian crisis.

Rebuilding Gaza is not yet the focus for those on the ground, he said.

"We just recently relocated the grave of my brother from another place, because the cemetery was all destroyed. So even in death, we're not finding peace," said Almadhoun. "My family is trying to do as much as we can, and it's sad because this needs a lot larger humanitarian response, and that's not been fully authorized. We're not even talking about rebuilding yet."

He said he hopes one day Gazans achieve "economic development and stability."

Yousef Aljamal, a Palestinian refugee residing in Turkey, left Gaza eight years ago and plans to return once he's able. He said he's not shocked by Trump's rhetoric, pointing to other comments the U.S. president has made about taking over the Panama Canal and Greenland.

"Will his plan materialize on the ground?" Aljamal said. "I think the only people who can stop this plan is the people of Gaza. They are determined to stop his plan. They do not want to go anywhere."

Tala Herzallah, a 22-year-old student in Gaza, told ABC News that Trump's comments felt like a slap in the face after everything Palestinians have endured for over a year.

"'Just leave your homeland, leave your country for us to rebuild it in a way that we see is good for us, not for you'" she characterized Trump's remarks. "I can't understand how this can be considered justice," said Herzallah.














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Action [Public] / Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Last post by Firestarter on February 07, 2025, 03:24:36 AM »
There's no way. He is not considering the Palestinians would fight to the death for the land, like they always have.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israels-defense-minister-orders-army-prepare-gaza-residents-departure-media-2025-02-06/

Trump says Israel would hand over Gaza after fighting, no US troops needed
By James Mackenzie and Doina Chiacu
February 6, 20257:02 AM PSTUpdated an hour ago

Trump says no U.S. forces will be needed in Gaza
Israeli defence minister tells army to create plan for 'voluntary departure' of Gaza residents
Katz suggests countries opposing Israel take in Palestinians
Palestinians fear another Nakba

JERUSALEM/WASHINGTON, Feb 6 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday that Israel would hand over Gaza to the United States after fighting was over and the enclave's population was already resettled elsewhere, which he said meant no U.S. troops would be needed on the ground.
A day after worldwide condemnation of Trump's announcement that he aimed to take over and develop the Gaza Strip into the "Riviera of the Middle East", Israel ordered its army to prepare to allow the "voluntary departure" of Gaza's residents.

Trump, who had previously declined to rule out deploying U.S. troops to Gaza, clarified his plans in comments on his Truth Social web platform.
"The Gaza Strip would be turned over to the United States by Israel at the conclusion of fighting," he said. Palestinians "would have already been resettled in far safer and more beautiful communities, with new and modern homes, in the region."

"No soldiers by the U.S. would be needed!" he said.

Earlier, amid a tide of support in Israel for what Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu called Trump's "remarkable" proposal, Defence Minister Israel Katz said he had ordered the army to prepare a plan to allow residents who wished to leave to exit Gaza voluntarily.

"I welcome President Trump's bold plan, Gaza residents should be allowed the freedom to leave and emigrate, as is the norm around the world," Katz said on X.

Katz said his plan would include exit options via land crossings, as well as special arrangements for departure by sea and air.

Trump's unexpected announcement on Wednesday, which sparked anger around the Middle East, came as Israel and Hamas were expected to begin talks in Doha on the second stage of a ceasefire deal for Gaza, intended to open the way for a full withdrawal of Israeli forces and an end to the war.

Regional heavyweight Saudi Arabia rejected the proposal outright and Jordan's King Abdullah, who will meet Trump at the White House next week, said on Wednesday he rejected any attempts to annex land and displace Palestinians.

"We will not sell our land for you, real estate developer. We are hungry, homeless, and desperate but we are not collaborators," said Abdel Ghani, a father of four living with his family in the ruins of their Gaza City home. "If (Trump) wants to help, let him come and rebuild for us here."
DISPLACEMENT
What effect Trump's shock proposal may have on the ceasefire talks is still unclear. Only 13 of a group of 33 Israeli hostages due for release in the first phase have so far been returned, with three more due to come out on Saturday. Five Thai hostages have also been released.
Hamas official Basem Naim accused Defence Minister Katz of trying to cover up "for a state that has failed to achieve any of its objectives in the war on Gaza", and said Palestinians are too attached to their land to ever leave.

Displacement of Palestinians has been one of the most sensitive issues in the Middle East for decades. Forced or coerced displacement of a population under military occupation is a war crime, banned under the 1949 Geneva Conventions.

A number of hardline Israeli politicians have openly called for Palestinians to be moved from Gaza and there was strong support for Trump's push among both security hawks and the Jewish settler movement.
Giora Eiland, a former general who attracted wide attention in an earlier stage of the war with his "Generals' Plan" for a forced displacement of people from northern Gaza, said Trump's plan was "logical" and aid should not be allowed to reach displaced people returning to northern Gaza.
Israel's military campaign killed tens of thousands of people after Hamas' October 7, 2023 attack on Israel triggered the war. It has forced Palestinians to repeatedly move around within Gaza, seeking safety.

But many say they will never leave the enclave because they fear permanent displacement, like the "Nakba", or catastrophe, when hundreds of thousands were dispossessed from homes in the war at the birth of the state of Israel in 1948.

Katz said countries that have opposed Israel's military operations in Gaza should take in the Palestinians.
"Countries like Spain, Ireland, Norway, and others, which have levelled accusations and false claims against Israel over its actions in Gaza, are legally obligated to allow any Gaza resident to enter their territories," he said.

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Additional reporting by Jana Choukeir in Dubai Writing by Michael Georgy Editing by Sharon Singleton, Peter Graff and Ros Russell





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Action [Public] / Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Last post by Firestarter on February 07, 2025, 03:15:56 AM »
For those who think the Deluded Melon is blustering, this is happening.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israels-defense-minister-orders-army-to-prepare-for-gaza-residents-departure-media-reports/ar-AA1yvzDb?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Israel's defense minister orders army to prepare for Gaza residents' departure, media reports
Story by Reuters • 9h • 2 min read


DUBAI (Reuters) - Israeli Defence Minister Israel Katz ordered the army on Thursday to prepare a plan to allow the "voluntary departure" of residents from the Gaza strip, Israeli media reported.

The instruction followed U.S. President Donald Trump's shock announcement that the United States plans to take over Gaza, resettle the Palestinians living there and transform the territory into the "Riviera of the Middle East".

"I welcome President Trump's bold plan, Gaza residents should be allowed the freedom to leave and emigrate, as is the norm around the world," Israel's Channel 12 quoted Katz as saying.

When asked who will take in the Palestinians, Katz said it should be countries who have opposed Israel's military operations in Gaza.

"Countries like Spain, Ireland, Norway, and others, which have levelled accusations and false claims against Israel over its actions in Gaza, are legally obligated to allow any Gaza resident to enter their territories," he said.

Katz's plan will include exit options via land crossings, as well as special arrangements for departure by sea and air, Channel 12 reported.

Trump drew rebukes on Wednesday over his plan for Gaza from world powers Russia, China and Germany, which said it would foster "new suffering and new hatred."

Regional heavyweight Saudi Arabia rejected the proposal outright and Jordan's King Abdullah, who will meet Trump at the White House next week, said on Wednesday he rejected any attempts to annex land and displace Palestinians.

But Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said on Wednesday that Trump's proposal was "remarkable" and urged that it be explored, even as he was not specific about what he believed Trump was offering.

(Reporting by Jana Choukeir; Editing by Jacqueline Wong, Michael Georgy and Michael Perry)







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