Topic: Foreign Installation and two minds

[Ke-ke wan]

There are predilections among naguals as well: some talk a lot (DJ described himself that way), others simply and mercilessly put you through experiences and leave surviving, comprehending and assimilating them to you (Julian, teacher of Miguel Ruiz), some are outright weird (Elias).

Ah,  yes.   Thanks for bringing this up,  Juhani.

As I see it, really only the foreign installation can misinterpret the energy or intent behind words. It's what's it good at, to keep itself in the number 1 position.

Excellent point Daphne!
I was thinking this, too.   That the energy is usually easy to feel at first glance.    Once we start thinking -- (and the foreign installation steps in)   doubt and second guessing,  among other things can occur.

The Death Walk

You are on Death Row. the call comes through - you’re next. You stand up and walk slowly towards the door, knowing that behind that door, it all ends. How are you to walk?

Feel your double inside you, bent over and cramped within your tiny frame. Allow your double to unbend, feel it reaching up to its full height and power - feel its ownership of the situation - its rightful sovereignty. Walk forward deliberately, knowing this is your last walk, your last moments. This is your Death Walk.

Practice this walk whenever you can, until it becomes calm, natural and graceful.

But the best time to practice is when you have to break what you are doing to go to the toilet. Pissing and crapping are what we call inconvenient truths. Inconvenient because we want to get on with what we are doing, but instead we have to drop that and head of to the bathroom. That is how death also comes to us. So that is a perfect time to practice the Death Walk. There is nothing more truthful, interfering and mundane, than having to drop our activity, and head off to pinch a loaf ... or die.

You crack me up,  M.  Thanks for the exercise.

And I apologize to all if I sounded a bit harsh last night.   It just seems to me that M has already told us everything so many times over--  I guess I projected a little bit of my own dislike at repeating myself.

This toilet exercise,   though is defintiely a NEW one!

[daphne]

Not anyone's responsbility to generate or maintain another's interest; but OTOH, because we're spread out all over the world, it isn't like we get together every Friday night for tea & crumpets to renew and expand our connection.  An amusing thought, actually - would be nice if that were the case. 

What a nice idea! May I have jam and cream with my crumpets? The last time I dropped in on your gathering was rather interesting for me. I'd like to do it again! 

[daphne]

This toilet exercise,   though is defintiely a NEW one!

Have some of my best insights there!   

[daphne]

The Death Walk

You are on Death Row. the call comes through - you’re next. You stand up and walk slowly towards the door, knowing that behind that door, it all ends. How are you to walk?

Feel your double inside you, bent over and cramped within your tiny frame. Allow your double to unbend, feel it reaching up to its full height and power - feel its ownership of the situation - its rightful sovereignty. Walk forward deliberately, knowing this is your last walk, your last moments. This is your Death Walk.

Practice this walk whenever you can, until it becomes calm, natural and graceful.

I've been attempting this for some time. Wanted to see where it would lead (from my experience while in hospital). I must admit though, that when I do it without the 'scene' I had,  I can accept my 'last moments' etc. However, when I put myself back in the same place I found myself then, it is quite different, though the fear of 'forgetting' is lessening. That was my fear, for to me, the 'tolality' of the self would include all experiences, and in that particular experience, there was the fear of forgetting. Having looked at it somewhat, it is rather like what I imagine would happen should my awareness be 'devoured by the eagle'. The idea of bliss or nirvana at times makes me think of that, since there, there is no individual "I". And currently I am still rather attached to my "I" - it is what makes my awareness, conscious. Don't know what awareness without consciousness would be like.

[daphne]

When a group goes silent for long periods of time, it can mean many things, not all of them necessarily negative.  But the end result seems to be that some members will stop coming altogether in the absence of activity, so while I can appreciate the value of silence, I also feel that forums are dependent on discussion to keep their members interested and focused.  A double-edged sword there, of course. 

I am trying really hard - a kind of not-doing for me!  I prefer silence, though I also realize that with silence I may just go around in my own little head and get no-where!   

[Quantum Shaman]

What a nice idea! May I have jam and cream with my crumpets? The last time I dropped in on your gathering was rather interesting for me. I'd like to do it again! 

That was indeed a very validating experience for both of us!  Thanks for stopping by.    (Yes, you may have as much cream as you like...)

*hugs*
D

[Firestarter]

The Death Walk

You are on Death Row. the call comes through - you’re next. You stand up and walk slowly towards the door, knowing that behind that door, it all ends. How are you to walk?

Feel your double inside you, bent over and cramped within your tiny frame. Allow your double to unbend, feel it reaching up to its full height and power - feel its ownership of the situation - its rightful sovereignty. Walk forward deliberately, knowing this is your last walk, your last moments. This is your Death Walk.

Practice this walk whenever you can, until it becomes calm, natural and graceful.

But the best time to practice is when you have to break what you are doing to go to the toilet. Pissing and crapping are what we call inconvenient truths. Inconvenient because we want to get on with what we are doing, but instead we have to drop that and head of to the bathroom. That is how death also comes to us. So that is a perfect time to practice the Death Walk. There is nothing more truthful, interfering and mundane, than having to drop our activity, and head off to pinch a loaf ... or die.

Grasp the moment, acknowledge the call has come. Accept it - stand and walk with dignity and presence. Stop before the doorway, knowing that you will not come back through again. This is it.

Death in the astral means major change. That is what we are facing - what I have described above as the imminent threshold. The Death Walk is also our threshold walk. Nothing will be the same again. If we practice this walk, we prepare ourselves in the best way for a transformation that will launch us into a destiny selected long before we came to this moment, this life.

Ive been doing something similar to this, though not entirely, on my walks for some time, walking thru the 'slit in the universe,' astrally to a different time. I see each walk and each slit as 'passing thru' another avenue which will help me accomplish some tough goals coming up ahead of me. Trying to make a miracle manifest.

[Nichi]

I realize many (most) have been in Soma far longer than I - my path was in a different direction during the days of TNF - so in essence I don't share the "history" of the group and the only way to "get it" is to ask.

It's not about TNF or TSR or TSW, though -- the forums themselves are coincidental. Soma is the only "forum" which isn't coincidental in the scheme of things. The history goes back way farther than forums, if one wants to look at 'history' in terms of time.

M explained it here:

As a group, we have known each other for much longer than our current internet connection - it goes back beyond the physical. We are fast approaching a threshold which is critical for the work we are all doing internally - critical for this life. You can't just create a group engaged in spirit development and not activate a deeper transformational process. That process has been activated and is now reaching the summit of watershed for the purpose of Soma in this life. How we negotiate this watershed is pivotal for our group’s purpose and our own purpose in this life.

That connection beyond forums or the internet in my view is an apprehension of something transcendent: it is not merely a perception or a myth-creation. One would either grok it and feel it in one's bones or not. Myself, I felt it in my bones from the beginning of meeting Michael, Jahn, and Juhani. The location (TNF) was purely coincidental.

(It's a digression from the topic, but thought I'd come in to amplify the point.)

[Firestarter]

Id have to agree on that one with nichi, and I do recall when stumbling upon TNF having the same feelings about meeting the people in the place. It has been a challenge, however, and there is side dreaming no one really knows of, which I know of, and everyone has their own, but for myself I can only say I utilize those challenges in understanding any 'past' for 'now.' And right now Im simply trying to utilize soma, its undercurrent, for my upcoming task for now, something that I have no choice but to do. I do not know how it will serve me, until perhaps five months from now. I did have a recent K-dream so it makes some sense to me that Michael would mention the kundalini of soma, that seems to be more of a 'within' deal, or, within us. A way of group and individual connection within that we can utilize in the present. That posts its own set of challenges cause the serpent is tricky; I dont really care, I just care right now in utilizing what will work in my current task in life. I also need to measure that to remain balanced and cannot allow it to offset me.

[Nichi]

Id have to agree on that one with nichi, and I do recall when stumbling upon TNF having the same feelings about meeting the people in the place. It has been a challenge, however, and there is side dreaming no one really knows of, which I know of, and everyone has their own, but for myself I can only say I utilize those challenges in understanding any 'past' for 'now.' And right now Im simply trying to utilize soma, its undercurrent, for my upcoming task for now, something that I have no choice but to do. I do not know how it will serve me, until perhaps five months from now. I did have a recent K-dream so it makes some sense to me that Michael would mention the kundalini of soma, that seems to be more of a 'within' deal, or, within us. A way of group and individual connection within that we can utilize in the present. That posts its own set of challenges cause the serpent is tricky; I dont really care, I just care right now in utilizing what will work in my current task in life. I also need to measure that to remain balanced and cannot allow it to offset me.

Good stalking, Ellen!