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Art of Dreaming
« on: January 09, 2010, 08:16:28 AM »
“Is it dangerous?”

“And how! Dreaming has to be a very sober affair. No false movement can be afforded. Dreaming is a process of awakening, of gaming control. Our dreaming attention must be systematically exercised, for it is the door to the second attention.”

“What’s the difference between the dreaming attention and the second attention?”

“The second attention is like an ocean, and the dreaming attention is like a river feeding into it. The second attention is the condition of being aware of total worlds, total like our world is total, while the dreaming attention is the condition of being aware of the items of our dreams.”

He heavily stressed that the dreaming attention is the key to every movement in the sorcerers’ world. He said that among the multitude of items in our dreams, there exist real energetic interferences, things that have been put in our dreams extraneously, by an alien force. To be able to find them and follow them is sorcery.

The emphasis he put on those statements was so pronounced that I had to ask him to explain them. He hesitated for a moment before answering.

“Dreams are, if not a door, a hatch into other worlds,” he began. “As such, dreams are a two-way street. Our awareness goes through that hatch into other realms, and those other realms send scouts into our dreams.”

“What are those scouts?”

“Energy charges that get mixed with the items of our normal dreams. They are bursts of foreign energy that come into our dreams, and we interpret them as items familiar or unfamiliar to us.”

“I am sorry, don Juan, but I can’t make heads or tails out of your explanation.”

“You can’t because you’re insisting on thinking about dreams in terms known to you: what occurs to us during sleep. And I am insisting on giving you another version: a hatch into other realms of perception. Through that hatch, currents of unfamiliar energy seep in. Then the mind or the brain or whatever takes those currents of energy and turns them into parts of our dreams.”

He paused, obviously to give my mind time to take in what he was telling me.

“Sorcerers are aware of those currents of foreign energy,” he continued. “They notice them and strive to isolate them from the normal items of their dreams.”

“Why do they isolate them, don Juan?”

“Because they come from other realms. If we follow them to their source, they serve us as guides into areas of such mystery that sorcerers shiver at the mere mention of such a possibility.”

“How do sorcerers isolate them from the normal items of their dreams?”

“By the exercise and control of their dreaming attention. At one moment, our dreaming attention discovers them among the items of a dream and focuses on them, then the total dream collapses, leaving only the foreign energy.”

Art of Dreaming
"A warrior doesn't seek anything for his solace, nor can he possibly leave anything to chance. A warrior actually affects the outcome of events by the force of his awareness and his unbending intent." - don Juan

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Re: Art of Dreaming
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2010, 11:04:24 AM »
“For the sorcerers who practice dreaming today, dreaming is freedom to perceive worlds beyond the imagination.”

“But, what’s the point of perceiving all that?”

“You already asked me, today, the same question. You speak like a true merchant. What’s the risk? you ask. What’s the percentage gain to my investment? Is it going to better me?”

“There is no way to answer that. The merchant mind does commerce. But freedom cannot be an investment. Freedom is an adventure with no end, in which we risk our lives and much more for a few moments of something beyond words, beyond thoughts or feelings.”

“I didn’t ask that question in that spirit, don Juan. What I want to know is what can be the driving force to do all this for a lazy bum like myself?”

“To seek freedom is the only driving force I know. Freedom to fly off into that infinity out there. Freedom to dissolve; to lift off; to be like the flame of a candle, which, in spite of being up against the light of a billion stars, remains intact, because it never pretended to be more than what it is: a mere candle.”

"A warrior doesn't seek anything for his solace, nor can he possibly leave anything to chance. A warrior actually affects the outcome of events by the force of his awareness and his unbending intent." - don Juan

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Re: Art of Dreaming
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2010, 10:12:07 PM »
“For the sorcerers who practice dreaming today, dreaming is freedom to perceive worlds beyond the imagination.”

“But, what’s the point of perceiving all that?”

“You already asked me, today, the same question. You speak like a true merchant. What’s the risk? you ask. What’s the percentage gain to my investment? Is it going to better me?”

“There is no way to answer that. The merchant mind does commerce. But freedom cannot be an investment. Freedom is an adventure with no end, in which we risk our lives and much more for a few moments of something beyond words, beyond thoughts or feelings.”

“I didn’t ask that question in that spirit, don Juan. What I want to know is what can be the driving force to do all this for a lazy bum like myself?”

“To seek freedom is the only driving force I know. Freedom to fly off into that infinity out there. Freedom to dissolve; to lift off; to be like the flame of a candle, which, in spite of being up against the light of a billion stars, remains intact, because it never pretended to be more than what it is: a mere candle.”



This part always gets to me.  "Freedom is an adventure with no end, in which we risk our lives and much more for a few moments of something beyond words, beyond thoughts or feelings.”
When I was in that tunnel, though it beckoned, I was still too scared and attached to take that step.    ::)
"The compulsion to possess and hold on to things is not unique. Everyone who wants to follow the warrior's path has to rid himself of this fixation in order not to focus our dreaming body on the weak face of the second attention." - The Eagle's Gift

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Re: Art of Dreaming
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2010, 06:02:31 AM »
You werent ready.
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Re: Art of Dreaming
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2010, 06:52:53 AM »
You werent ready.

If someone was ready, it was Daphne.

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Re: Art of Dreaming
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2010, 06:57:19 AM »
Now my strictly personal view on this ever going "freedom" part among CC warriors.

Freedom from what? Do we talk about Sansara?
Do we talk about personal freedom?

There is one freedom, and that is the freedom from our social domestication, and there is a freedom in being able to have and live in second attention. But that is just as much freedom our beings will ever experience.

When it (Freedom) comes down to our Soul that is another chapter.

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Re: Art of Dreaming
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2010, 06:58:32 AM »
If someone was ready, it was Daphne.

No cause if she was ready she would've gone. She had more to do here, which is why she stayed, simple as that. Like she said, she had some attachments. We're human in our attachments Jahn.
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« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2010, 07:04:41 AM »
No cause if she was ready she would've gone. She had more to do here, which is why she stayed, simple as that. Like she said, she had some attachments. We're human in our attachments Jahn.

I am sorry to falsify your statement. Warriors leave human curriculum and agenda behind, very early on their path. The 2nd part is that we do not go away, and die just like that - before we completed our task. Death is not freedom. Death is transformation.

Warriors seek life, the one and only thinkable life, as travelers. Warriors in the raven family are travelers on the road to infinity.

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Re: Art of Dreaming
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2010, 08:12:24 AM »
I am sorry to falsify your statement. Warriors leave human curriculum and agenda behind, very early on their path. The 2nd part is that we do not go away, and die just like that - before we completed our task. Death is not freedom. Death is transformation.

Warriors seek life, the one and only thinkable life, as travelers. Warriors in the raven family are travelers on the road to infinity.

I agree with you. We 'die before we die.'
"A warrior doesn't seek anything for his solace, nor can he possibly leave anything to chance. A warrior actually affects the outcome of events by the force of his awareness and his unbending intent." - don Juan

 

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