Author Topic: Olga Kharitidi  (Read 132 times)

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Olga Kharitidi
« on: November 28, 2006, 01:04:56 AM »
"Can you tell me what, from your judgment and experience, you consider to be the source of suffering and unhappiness in the world?" A wave of movement went through the audience. I looked around and saw mostly young people, while a few academic-type older men sat in a first row. People looked at one another, waiting to see who would answer, and then I heard Masha's low voice pronounce with a slight giggle, "Is it evil?"

Vladimir looked at her momentarily with the same unusual attantion I noticed in his eyes before, then continued, "When you say 'evil', it is a powerful statement. But this statement also distances you from the source. It's like you cut yourself off, or cut off everything which is good in yourself from the nature of evil, and you think that through that, you can achieve healing and protection.

"In reality, it is vice versa. When you distance yourself from the source of suffering, when you name it as opposite to what you want to be (I assume that you all want to be good, don't you?), you lose a chance to change it. Because it continues to live inside you, as part of you, making you make many of your choices, but you refuse to recognize it, so you remain in ignorant bliss and you continue to suffer.

"We call the source of unhappiness and disease 'trauma'. And we believe that there are live representations of trauma in all of us. In our tradition, we call them 'spirits of trauma.'

The Master of Lucid Dreams
Olga Kharitidi
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Re: Olga Kharitidi
« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2006, 01:08:03 AM »
"People hurt others when they feel scared. That is the law. The more one hurts, the more fears one feels inside.

"The main reason for feeling scared is giving up the power of yourself. People won't give it up by their free will, but they do it all the time when they have been hurt. When they don't want the hurt to be a part of their personal memory, they reject the traumatic experience altogether. They don't accept it as a completed part of themselves so a memory demon catches it and states, 'This is mine.' The memory demon gets the energy; the self loses it.

"The gap in one's personal story has been created and it is always experienced thereafter as fear. When we feel fear, we feel this gap between what we know as our accepted memory and what belongs to some dark corner inside us. The fear returns again and again to hurt us. As through us it hurts others, and through this it feeds its secret memory....."


The Master of Lucid Dreams
Olga Kharitidi


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Re: Olga Kharitidi
« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2006, 01:09:56 AM »
The memory demons can be seen as images too, but they have much more conscious energy in them than usual memories. And exactly because of that, when they are seen and transformed, they don't disappear, but change the quality of their energy and start serving you after you conquer them. This is how shamans obtain the most powerful spirit helpers. Many believe that shamans get their helpers through transmission from older shamans. This is true. "But somewhere along the line, those spirit helpers were memory demons, who were transformed and subjugated by a shaman who turned them into obedient servants."

The Master of Lucid Dreams
Olga Kharitidi

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Re: Olga Kharitidi
« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2006, 01:19:49 AM »

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Re: Olga Kharitidi
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2006, 02:51:38 AM »
The memory demons can be seen as images too, but they have much more conscious energy in them than usual memories. And exactly because of that, when they are seen and transformed, they don't disappear, but change the quality of their energy and start serving you after you conquer them. This is how shamans obtain the most powerful spirit helpers. Many believe that shamans get their helpers through transmission from older shamans. This is true. "But somewhere along the line, those spirit helpers were memory demons, who were transformed and subjugated by a shaman who turned them into obedient servants."

The Master of Lucid Dreams
Olga Kharitidi


Servants. Hm..Yes, that is a serious power, to turn a demon into an ally.

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Re: Olga Kharitidi
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2006, 03:49:11 AM »
In short what is a memory demon?

wait....Olga Karitidi! I think I remember a book by her I read. Have been looking for it off and on for a while. thanks!

SHE IS! it was entering the circle. Now I know what my christmas present is!
« Last Edit: November 29, 2006, 03:52:11 AM by Ian »
"As long as we confuse the myriad forms of the divine lila with reality, without perceiving the unity of Brahman underlying all these forms, we are under the spell of maya..."
 -Fritjof Capra, The Tao of Physics: An Exploration of the Parallels between Modern Physics and Eastern Mysticism

 

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