Topic: The Gospel According to Mary Magdalene

[Michael]

That is a big question with all gospels. My understanding is that none of the gospels were written by the people they were named after. I think the usual view is that the knowledge was handed down orally, until someone finally put it to writing. Thus there were different 'stories' passed down, which would have undergone a lot of modification. Then there is a big field of identifying which were addins and which were more original. 

[Taimyr]

Maybe this Gospel of Mary was written at a later time, which is the reason why it wasn't added to the Bible.

[Michael]

They were all written at a later time Taimi, but that has nothing to do with their inclusion in the bible. There was and remains a huge debate about which gospels became canonical.

There are layers of gospels, as there are of any religious texts anywhere in the world - some more or less accepted that others.

Personally, I think they are mostly crap, because they include such a shallow layer of information for anyone serious about knowledge. But the Christian gospels are more about faith than knowledge. There are many references to insights, as there are in all the Abrahamic scriptures, and for someone who has been able to progress on the path, some of these insights are appropriate, and even useful. But in the main, they are all about swaying us on the basis of emotion and faith (which means believing without knowing why).

By all means trawl through these texts, and find some helpful insights, but if you think to use them as a basis of the journey into truth, you will be deluded.

[Taimyr]

Bible is not some basis for me, it's clear that it can only provide bits of information.

[Firestarter]

michael i wouldnt say they were crap. i can certainly admire the influence jesus has had over the world yes im aware of the campaign, and many might not believe if it were not for it. but i think, while i agree the gospels arent written about knowledge, they are revealing how to have a direct relationship with god. the old testament showed what is likened to awar god. jesus showed the people a different side, a god who loved mankind so much hed sacrifice his son. when the sky turns dark, when jesus ison the cross, he was not forsaken in as much as god couldnt bear to look anymore at his suffering. the story, tells how one could directly have relationship with god. i do agree this would be based on faith.

[Jahn]

I don't understand one thing. Why is it called Gospel of Mary if Mary is being talked about in this text. I'ts someone esle describing her and other disciples, so it must have been someone else who wrote it?

All Gospel is written by someone else (than the apostel).

There is more Gospels, like the Gospel of Judas and Thomas.

[Jahn]

Maybe this Gospel of Mary was written at a later time, which is the reason why it wasn't added to the Bible.

No, I don't think so. The Gospel of Mary was too hot stuff, and the "men" had decided otherwise, her Gospel did not fit in in their mission.

[Jahn]

As I told my atheistic son today, one has to distinguish between a teological and exegetic discussion about this gospel here and that idea there. People might have found confidence in the Gospels, people might have found peace in them. Their relgious experience is not to be discussed, their experineces are good, nevertheless the history.

What we discuss, and question might be "the whole story".
Why they (the bad guys) make Jesus divine with delimiting stuff as being born by a virgin, being the Son of God and so on.

As a bonus: There is i valid theory why he "survived" the crucifiction.

In the Old testament it is said that not a hair, nor bone would be xxxx on Messiah.

At the crucifiction, when the crucified had done his last sigh, it was most common that the Romans slaughtered the legs of the victim.

 But that they never did with Jesus. Instead the throw a sword into his belly (and water or something waterlike ran out).  So by that exception it is a chance that he was not completely dead when they took him of the cross. And he could recover in the grave that was offered by a donater to the Essene community.

[Taimyr]

How can you be sure of this? It might as well have been written by someone who read the already written texts.

No, I don't think so. The Gospel of Mary was too hot stuff, and the "men" had decided otherwise, her Gospel did not fit in in their mission.

[runningstream]

seeing how other forms of the same story exist throughout history pre dating

christianity "christ" bc

i think it is important to see that it is " the eagle" which manifests the story itself

as a pattern

witness - able upon the "heavens" - stars

and also upon the "earth"

both of them

as with these patterns they are able to be come across

archetypally and as forming throughout history

i will even add "spiritually" we must also consider the idea that


these forms as individual manifestations re occurr

[Jahn]

How can you be sure of this? It might as well have been written by someone who read the already written texts.

Ask me.