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Offline Josh

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Beginner's Mind
« on: March 12, 2007, 04:26:29 AM »
When it comes to the path, people love to make it easy. They want something they can hold onto, something to grab at and secure in their cozy little routine. They want something thats "easy to swallow and tastes great too!!". They want instant enlightenment, or at least someone telling them that they can have it. In reality, practice on the path is anything but "easy to swallow". In actuality, this kind of practice is absurdly simple - so absurdly simple that people cannot see it. We are not dealing with the theory. We are dealing with the cold, hard facts.

Practice is of a kind of simplicity that transcends conceptual understanding of simplicity. Thats why people have a hard time getting it from their heads into their actions.  There is no 'cure all magical potion' that will save you from real effort. No-one can imagine all the kinds of things that go into real effort. If someone tells you they have, you can be assured they are full of shit in a big way. That is why you should not care about imagining these things. Do them. You can prove just how vast the practice is to yourself. It is an endless challenge. One step leads to another, and so on, ad infinitum. People might not want to deal with the added effort that comes with progress (or the lack thereof), so they should either stop practicing or learn to deal with it. If you are running around all day thinking to yourself "Ive got it! I know exactly whats going on! I've found the key!! Now I dont have to do anything else!!", you have made a big mistake.

In Zen, there is a term called 'beginner's mind'. Beginner's mind is a type of mind that is open and free, always capable of improvement and learning. It is the kind of mind that is always fresh, always ripe with possibilities. Beginner's mind is a pure state, an original state. Everyone needs to realize beginner's mind as soon as they can, because it is indespensible for this path in general. If you are finished with learning, you are finished with growing. You are mature and ripening for death, or cessation. Beginner's mind is never finished growing. It always has room for new insight, new ideas, new possibilities, new perspectives. It is capable of dealing with the moment in an immediate and unmediated way, unencumbered by established concrete routines of behaving.
Other is.  Self must struggle to exist.

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Re: Beginner's Mind
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2007, 07:07:00 AM »
Good one!

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Re: Beginner's Mind
« Reply #2 on: September 22, 2007, 06:06:17 AM »
http://www.intrex.net/chzg/hartman4.htm

Beginner's mind is Zen practice in action. It is the mind that is innocent of preconceptions and expectations, judgements and prejudices. Beginner's mind is just present to explore and observe and see "things as-it-is." I think of beginner's mind as the mind that faces life like a small child, full of curiosity and wonder and amazement. "I wonder what this is? I wonder what that is? I wonder what this means?" Without approaching things with a fixed point of view or a prior judgement, just asking "what is it?" ~~~~~~~~


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Re: Beginner's Mind
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2007, 01:06:42 AM »
Yup!!

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Re: Beginner's Mind
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2007, 11:53:12 AM »
So the most difficult thing is always to keep your beginner's mind. There is no need to have a deep understanding of Zen. Even though you read much Zen literature, you must read each sentence with a fresh mind. You should not say, "I know what Zen is," or "I have attained enlightenment." This is also the real secret of the arts: always be a beginner. Be very very careful about this point. If you start to practice zazen, you will begin to appreciate your beginner's mind. It is the secret of Zen practice.

~Suzuki Roshi

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Re: Beginner's Mind
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2007, 11:53:57 AM »
In the beginner's mind there is no thought, "I have attained something." All self-centered thoughts limit our vast mind. When we have no thought of achievement, no thought of self, we are true beginners. Then we can really learn something. The beginner's mind is the mind of compassion. When our mind is compassionate, it is boundless. Dogen-zenji, the founder of our school, always emphasized how important it is to resume our boundless original mind. Then we are always true to ourselves, in sympathy with all beings, and can actually practice.

~SR

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Re: Beginner's Mind
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2007, 04:40:29 AM »
That's one of the toughest parts of learning zen/zazen meditations.

We approach spirituality with the expectation to 'gain.' Enlightenment, satori, is something to 'gain.'

But its not. Its that, you have to 'lose,' and 'lose,' and 'lose.' You have to lose everything you've acquired.

And in any culture, where everything is about gaining, attaining, or even 'levels' like has been discussed - one of the requirements to learning zazen - abandoning everything you know, even if its about zen, or about other things learned. You dont go into it with the concept, "I know."

The thing is, on first look (hey first attention glance), it looks like its antagonistic to the Toltec practice. Knowledge is a 'gain,' and even zen texts will say its an acquirement. However its not that antagonistic to Toltec, though I will admit, in some areas they totally dont gel together.

Because you'd have to even drop, whats been learned on Toltec.

Though a 'man of knowledge,' probably is one with a beginner's mind. I dont see DJ as missing on the 'beginners mind," esp when he says:

"A warrior must learn to make every act count, since he is going to be here in this world for only a short while, in fact, too short for witnessing all the marvels of it."

That sounds like someone who is approaching the world with the beginner's mind. At least to me.

Toltec says attain knowledge, power, zen, esp Rinzai, is about doing away with any barrier that stands in the way of the individual achieving the beginner's mind, which isnt any different than the original mind. And anything that can be 'grasped' is in error.

Its a good practice for anyone who really needs to undo programs though, this is where it can gel with Toltec. Its probably a quicker method than even recapitulation can do.

Recapitulation is a lot of work, you have to approach every little 'speck' of dust thats on the mirror - however, zen says there is no mirror to clean the specks off of, and that can be even more difficult to understand.

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Re: Beginner's Mind
« Reply #7 on: September 24, 2007, 05:47:21 AM »
Forgetting all knowledge at one stroke,
I do not need cultivation anymore.
Activity expressing the ancient road,
I don't fall into passivity.
Everywhere trackless,
conduct beyond sound and form:
the adepts in all places
call this the supreme state.

-   Kyogen

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Re: Beginner's Mind
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2007, 05:53:42 AM »
"Searching for words, hunting for phrases, when will it end? Esteeming knowledge and gathering information only maddens the spirit. Just entrust yourself to your own nature, empty and illuminating- beyond this, I have nothing to teach." ~Bankei

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Re: Beginner's Mind
« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2007, 02:44:53 AM »
"For Zen students the most important thing is not to be dualistic. Our "original mind" includes everything within itself. It is always rich and sufficient within itself. You should not lose your self-sufficient state of mind. This does not mean a closed mind, but actually an empty mind and a ready mind. If your mind is empty, it is always ready for anything; it is open to everything. In the beginner's mind there are many possibilities; in the expert's mind there are few." ~SR

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Re: Beginner's Mind
« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2007, 02:51:09 AM »
What is Meditation without thinking?

You may say "this is impossible, to stop thinking". But let's just look at this question here a little bit, and maybe we can see something fresh, something new and un-thoughtful.

We can see that experience gives rise to knowledge, which becomes our memory, from which arises thought. So thought is always about the past; history. We cannot think about the present moment. It is impossible. Once we have a thought about something, reflect on it, it is past, even if it was just a split second ago. It is not the present. If we are thinking, it is always about a moment, a movement or action, that has already occurred.

Of course, we cannot stop thinking by trying to not think about it. That sort of circular effort is endless, and never leads to any realization. Instead, we must simply be aware. When we look at something like a Maui rainbow, is it possible to just look at it, without immediately putting ourselves in the past by commenting "Oh, how beautiful"? Because when we do this we are inserting a space, a separation, between ourselves and what we are observing. When you are listening to me talk like this, can you just listen, without agreeing or disagreeing, but just listen as if you are one big ear? Can you simply be, without bringing any history, without adding anything extra to it? When you are practicing Oneness Rhythm Taiso, or Kengi, or some other kata from Aikido, are you just doing it, or are you watching, observing yourself doing it? When we were watching the students perform taigi the other evening, they were moving very fast, what seemed like too fast, and yet their time was too slow. Why? Because they didn't do simply what had to be done and nothing else. Many small and seemingly unimportant movements were tacked on, over and over, and these movements added up to 5 or 6 seconds altogether. It's not that life has to be lived according to some superimposed time. But the taigi is designed to reveal to each of us, among other things, just how much we are adding unnecessary movement into our techniques, our lives.

We must realize that knowledge is infinite. Even knowledge concerning a specific, seemingly unimportant thing, is infinite. There is no end to the amount of things it is possible to know about any particular subject. Once we see that fact, then we can see that no matter how much experience we have in some discipline, like Aikido, no matter how long we have practiced, or how well read we are, relative to the infinite amount of knowledge available on the subject, we have accumulated actually very little. In fact, it is possible to know only an infinitesimally insignificant amount. So for all intents and purposes, we know pretty much nothing at all about anything!

Once we can understand and accept this, then and only then can we truly begin to learn. Then and only then can we have a "beginner's mind", so often referred to by Suzuki Sensei.

So to be constantly in a state of not knowing, this beginner's mind, is to be able to actually learn. This is to be in a state of constant learning. Then life itself is as exciting and curious as watching a movie or reading a book. When we are reading a good story, or watching one unfold, our attention is always focused and in harmony with the story. We are drawn into it, and we follow it with all of our senses. And even though we know it is only a story, it can move us to laughter and to tears. Life, as such, is the ultimate story; much more compelling than any movie ever was. Because the story of our life is never over. It never stops. You can never put the book down for dinner, or walk out of the theatre of this life. This story only ends when we die; and yet even this we cannot know for sure. As long as we are conscious, we must continue to be open and learn in every moment.

Only when we are able to lead a life of this kind of thought-less, open inquiry, having available to us and using but not depending on past knowledge, only then can we come into contact with that which cannot be accumulated or measured. It cannot be measured because there is no "amount" to it. It doesn't gather, but continues to unfold, infinitely. It is ever-new and constantly opening right before our very senses.

Then, when we are in this very practical and real, yet indescribable state, this is what we can truly call "meditation".

Meditation Without Thinking
Christopher Curtis Sensei

"Discipline is, indeed, the supreme joy of feeling reverent awe; of watching, with your mouth open, whatever is behind those secret doors."

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Re: Beginner's Mind
« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2007, 08:57:28 AM »
In the beginner's mind there is no thought, "I have attained something." All self-centered ideas limit our vast mind... The beginner's mind is the mind of compassion. When our mind is compassionate, it is boundless... Then we are always true to ourselves, in sympathy with all beings, and can actually practice. Whatever we see is changing, losing its balance.

The reason everything looks beautiful is because it is out of balance, but its background is always in perfect harmony. This is how everything exists in the realm of Buddha nature... Without realizing the background of Buddha-nature, everything appears to be in the form of suffering. ...Suffering itself is how we live, and how we extend our life. To stop your mind does not mean to stop the activities of mind. It means that your mind pervades your whole body. When your practice is calm and ordinary, everyday life itself is enlightenment. If you do not lose yourself, then even though you have difficulty, there is actually no problem whatsoever... When your life is always a part of your surroundings - in other words, when you are called back to yourself, in the present moment - then there is no problem. When you start to wander about in some delusion which is something apart from yourself, then your surroundings are not real anymore, and your mind is not real anymore...

Once you are in the midst of delusion, there is no end to delusion... To solve the problem is to be part of it, to be one with it. We do not seek for something besides ourselves. We should find the truth in this world, through our difficulties, through our suffering. Mindfulness is, at the same time, wisdom. ...

It is the readiness of the mind that is wisdom. Our true nature is beyond our conscious experience. ...firm conviction in the original emptiness of your mind is the most important thing in your practice... Even though you think you are in delusion, your pure mind is there. To realize pure mind in your delusion is practice. If you have pure mind... the delusion will vanish. ...This is to attain enlightenment before you realize it. True nature is watching water.

When you say, "My zazen is very poor", here you have true nature, but ... do not realize it. Nothing exists but momentarily in its present form and color. One thing flows into another and cannot be grasped. The true purpose is to see things as they are, to observe things as they are, and to let everything go as it goes. This is to put everything under control in its widest sense. Zen practice is to open up our small mind. So concentrating is just an aid to help you realize "big mind", or the mind that is everything. That everything is included within your mind is the essence of mind...

Even though waves arise, the essence of your mind is pure... Waves are the practice of the water... Big mind and small mind are one... As your mind does not expect anything from the outside, it is always filled. A mind with waves in it is not a disturbed mind, but actually an amplified one... In one sense our experiences coming by one by one are always fresh and new, but in another sense they are nothing but a continuous unfolding of the one big mind... With big mind we accept each of our experiences as if recognizing the face we see in a mirror as our own... with this imperturbable composure of big mind we practice zazen.

~Suzuki Roshi

 

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