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Tour de France
« on: July 12, 2009, 02:04:20 PM »
I can't recommend watching this more highly. It is a most fascinating complexity of intricate and inter-related pressures. To get the full benefit, you have to watch a whole stage, or more - highlights don't show the hidden secrets. I'll give just a few pointers apparent so far this tour.

First, the sport is fascinating to watch. Aside from the incredibly sophisticated filming and overall coverage - it must be costing a fortune - the visual landscape is something I really enjoy. From a distance, not much happens, like with cricket or bowls. You get to see some amazing countryside, and those staid people-less towns without the slightest raggy edge anywhere to be seen, and the roofs all the same colour. But when you zero in on the race action, there is constant activity and subtle gamesmanship, with these guys going at it at an incredible pace. I love that juxtaposition of contained tension and exertion with the slow unfolding macro scene.

Then there are the different types of riders. Basically you have sprinters, hill climbers and 'general category', or all-rounders. So there are separate contests within the whole race for each of these types - separate jersey for leaders in each category. But over all this are the teams.

It isn't an individual sport, but not quite a team sport either - somewhere inbetween.

The critical thing is that to be in front is very trying because of the head wind, so they take it in turns to ride point - or they don't, as their strategy dictates. Then teams will cause all kinds of tricky havoc to each other, so any good rider needs support from members of their own team to 'protect' and save the good rider's energy for the final battle of each stage.

You get 'break-aways' who can be from one to dozens of riders who escape the main peloton. Their idea is to get clear of the main group and stay out there to the finish. These riders are not interested in winning the whole race - the 'yellow jersey' - but seek to win a stage, which is a big thing.

So there are riders who simply protect their gun team member, there are those who win sprints, those who vie for stage honours, those who want to win 'king of the mountain' (pokerdot jersey), those who go back to support cars to get food and drinks, and those who fall off and get injured.

If you are at the front of the peloton you are safer from someone falling ahead of you and bringing you down, plus you are ready to make a dash if there is a big attack. But it is easier back in the pack as there is no wind, and you don't have to be a pace maker.

There is the uphill battles where the sprinters are left flagging way behind, and some riders just take off like bullets on the steepest of climbs. Then the downhills which are very fast and dangerous - some riders are expert downhill exponents.

The most fascinating thing for me is to see how winning any stage or sprint has little to do with winning the yellow jersey and the whole race. Those who are contenders for the overall race win have to conserve their energy - the race goes for about three weeks. So these riders have to play a very skilful, consistent and patient game.

Currently the Americans are dominating the peloton, and, along with Lance Armstrong, they have the greatest depth of talent in their team. But there are conflicts among them, as one guy, who doesn't speak English, is a very good rider who thinks he has a chance himself, aside from team tactics. All the other teams are getting pissed off at the American team for dominating the front of the race, like some panzer division, they set the pace and act like they are the winners already - but you have to admit they are very impressive!

Lance is a paragon of stability and determination, but I doubt he has the reserves to pull off the win - nonetheless, he does have the experience and brains, and that counts for a lot.

Of course we are watching our old friend Cadel Evens, who we knew as a kid, and we still know his father (actually foster-father). Cadel is in a Belgium team who don't have the riders to keep up with him and protect him, so as always he is on his own - he used to love Tin-tin as a kid, who was also usually left on his own to solve the case. But he is such a strong contender for the overall race win, that all the other guns watch him like a hawk and won't allow him much room to move. Having no team protection is a serious handicap, which lost him the race last year - he came second. He is one of the highest ranking tour riders over all the tours.

Lastly, I have to say, if you just sit through thirty minutes, you'll be addicted. It is so mesmerising!

There is a huge amount to learn from this, for our own 'race'.

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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #1 on: July 12, 2009, 03:08:54 PM »
Found a recent youtube to go with your very enthusiastic post! :)

Spoken in french, but its cool, oui oui!

<span data-s9e-mediaembed="youtube" style="display:inline-block;width:100%;max-width:640px"><span style="display:block;overflow:hidden;position:relative;padding-bottom:56.25%"><iframe allowfullscreen="" loading="lazy" scrolling="no" style="background:url(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/rH0xzLCp5Fo/hqdefault.jpg) 50% 50% / cover;border:0;height:100%;left:0;position:absolute;width:100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rH0xzLCp5Fo"></iframe></span></span><br /><a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/rH0xzLCp5Fo&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x006699&amp;color2=0x54abd6" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/rH0xzLCp5Fo&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=1&amp;color1=0x006699&amp;color2=0x54abd6</a>
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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #2 on: July 12, 2009, 10:37:44 PM »
It's not being aired on my basic cable, alas. No doubt there is mention of the races on the sports stations, but no live coverage, so far as I can tell.
Not here, not there, but everywhere - always right before your eyes.
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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2009, 11:31:24 AM »
One of the things I admire about these bike riders, is that if you want to win the overall race, you have to be extremely careful what you spend your energy on. It is such a long and difficult tour, that as past experts have said, every action has to be weighed - never expend energy without a real purpose and benefit to the final result.

Those who are not looking to win, have the luxury to exhaust themselves in sub-plots along the way, but those who seek overall victory, have to be misers with their energy and remain at absolute alertness for a decisive breaking chance - then they throw everything at it!

Discernment pushed to a maximum of prudence and real opportunity.

As I said, a lot to learn from this race.

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« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2009, 01:35:20 PM »

Those who are not looking to win, have the luxury to exhaust themselves in sub-plots along the way, but those who seek overall victory, have to be misers with their energy and remain at absolute alertness for a decisive breaking chance - then they throw everything at it!



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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2009, 01:40:12 PM »
I was looking at that youtube and thinking, yes, energy conservation, but also being able to balance extremely well is another requirement of the Tour. Lest you scrape up your ass I say!
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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2009, 07:49:36 PM »
Lastly, I have to say, if you just sit through thirty minutes, you'll be addicted. It is so mesmerising!

There is a huge amount to learn from this, for our own 'race'.

Then there is also the doping element. In previous years French police has conducted searches in hotel rooms and seized syringes and all sorts of substances, yet the best and richest teams seem to get away with it. There was a moment when they actually thought about cancelling the whole thing - so very discredited it became. So, there is the talent, team, money, chemistry, scientists, doctors...

Lance Armstrong attempting his eighth win at the age of 38 and competing on equal terms with 15 years younger guys...

The latest hit in doping world is a gene doping - injection of DNA into your muscles that intiates more intensive production of various hormones. It is untraceable - DNA disappears soon and hormones are your own. Just look at Jamaican track and field team sprinters that have risen above others (even 30+ old sprinters).

These bodies pedaling 100 miles a day uphill, pushed by minds with a single thought and squeezed of every bit of energy by the end of the day. Then a pain, night's rest and the next day it continues...until you make it to the end or run out of energy.

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Re: Tour de France
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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2009, 05:14:12 PM »
For those who can watch this race, today's stage is going to be lots of fireworks. This is where all the big contenders will launch their chances in the mountains. With the sprinters all left behind, just struggling to get to the finish line without being disqualified, the hot guns for the yellow jersey will be pounding each other on the steep slopes. Unless of course the stage is called off due to snowing.

There are four prime young bucks and one old goat, all throwing their souls into the fire. Should be a grand show!

It starts around midday in France, or 10 pm here. I watched a lot on that web site I gave above yesterday, and it is a very good presentation. I would be curious to know how all that is set up from a web-developer's point of view.

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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2009, 07:18:02 AM »
What sort of creatures compete there...?

...Miguel Indurain

His five successive Tour de France wins (1991-95) make him one of the greatest cyclists to have graced the stage but whether he was the greatest is a debatable point.
Now that he has retired to spend more time on his family's farm and with his son Miguel junior, the cycling historians will have a fun time assessing his place among the Pantheon of great riders.

Doctors were amazed by Indurain's extraordinary physical capacity, characterised by a resting heart rate of around 30 beats per minute, a lung capacity of eight litres and a heart capable of pumping 50 litres of blood per minute for hours at a time. In the mountain stages of the Tour de France, Indurain could take his pulse rate up to 190 beats per minute and drop it back to 60 on the descent within half a minute.


...at nights he had to periodically get up and do stand-ups as his heart tended to stop during sleep - so little oxigen required that body...

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Re: Tour de France
« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2009, 09:58:23 PM »
Well, it's over. I can't think of a similar single sporting event that goes for five or six hours a day, for three weeks - every day a major event on it's own with the world's best competing against stress, pain, wind, rain, mountains and exhaustion.

This year I realised the significance of teams for the first time.

Cadel's tour was so unusual - he took a serious psychological dive when he found himself out of the podium chances early on (primarily due to team issues), and then was shat upon for fighting back. He went through a huge crisis day after day, and seemed to come out the other end his old self, if humbled. I felt he grew strongly in self-knowledge, as did a few others.

Lance Armstrong: a very interesting guy. Julie read up on a lot of negative stuff about him, but although he obviously has a few personal issues, I had to take my hat off to him - he was really the doyenne of Le Tour. His tenacity, reliability, control, and acceptance that he was not going to win, yet still supporting another within his own team to win, was played out with maturity and sensibility.

Some of the highlights were the individual efforts. The young Aust/German guy who road away out front of everyone to win a stage, much to the amazement of himself as well as everyone else, was great to see - he was so overcome with emotion that he burst into tears at the finish line and had to cover his face.

The Spanish guy who won the huge mountain finish on Saturday, from a break away right at the start of the stage - he beat the big guns up that 20Km mountain road, at the end of many hours in a small group out front. He had a dream of winning the night before, but he refused to believe it could be true, in case it wasn't.

What surprised me was that even when very little happened for such long periods, I still was hooked in. But you had to go through the long build-up to appreciate the finale of each stage. I am attracted to such long drawn out efforts.

The only defect, was the narrow physicality. Aside from the psychological aspects which were intense, in the end, it's just a bunch of guys who ride six or seven hours a day for their occupation. Personally I require more from my time on earth.

But I learnt so much from watching this Tour, that feed directly into my own pursuit. It has been a massive gift of shakti!

 

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