Topic: The Third Attention

[Angela]

"Death/rebirth events come in all shapes and sizes, and this was my first. My First Step. This was the one that separates who I was from what I am now. That was the day I set fire to my life and went to war."

Jed McKenna ~ Spiritual Enlightenment The Damnedest Thing

A fire, a massacre of everything believed to be the truth. Clearing away the rubble of a war on self ... an ashened forest, sprouting new growth.

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This thread is crazy.

I don't know if we can access the third attention until death, and even then, I don't know if we can access it. I feel this is something the Buddha either achieved or went beyond, but the third attention now. I primarily focus now, on the here and now, and some dreaming in the second. But I don't concern myself too much with the third attention. I know if I 'think' I experienced it, it is probably not 'it.'

Also I would say Jahn has shared experiences, Juhani - not too much.

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Mares says that old seers did not pay attention to the possibility of Third Attention because it was so plain, obvious and simple. They found manipulation of the world through the magic of the Second Attention much more attractive. According to Mares, living in the Third Attention and acting through it is utterly different from the usual stuff in the Second Attention. It is akin to acting on things that have not happened yet.

I don't think Castaneda provided any comment on Don Juan's views why the old seers missed the Third Attention.

Another promising thread that went to shit. The Old Seers were having too much fun in the second attention to perceive a third. Then they got trapped in the IB world and I suspect Carlos did too. For awhile. They became food. But they thought they had the upper hand of it. Just my take on it. I could be wrong since this was long ago. But I can see why don juan warned of them and knowing how the second attention can be alluring and how the IBers are, I estimate thats why.

Just posting this for anyone who reads it. Ignore the shit show guests.