Author Topic: On Death and Dying  (Read 826 times)

nichi

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Re: On Death and Dying
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2007, 03:12:19 AM »
I'M WORKING ON THE WORLD
 
I'm working on the world,
revised, improved edition,
featuring fun for fools,
blues for brooders,
combs for bald pates,
tricks for old dogs.
 
Here's one chapter: The Speech
of Animals and Plants.
Each species comes, of course,
with its own dictionary.
Even a simple "Hi there,"
when traded with a fish,
make both the fish and you
feel quite extraordinary.
 
The long-suspected meanings
of rustlings, chirps, and growls!
Soliloquies of forests!
The epic hoot of owls!
Those crafty hedgehogs drafting
aphorisms after dark,
while we blindly believe
they are sleeping in the park!
 
Time (Chapter Two) retains
its sacred right to meddle
in each earthly affair.
Still, time's unbounded power
that makes a mountain crumble,
moves seas, rotates a star,
won't be enough to tear
lovers apart: they are
too naked, too embraced,
too much like timid sparrows.
 
Old age is, in my book,
the price that felons pay,
so don't whine that it's steep:
you'll stay young if you're good.
Suffering (Chapter Three)
doesn't insult the body.
Death?  It comes in your sleep,
exactly as it should.
 
When it comes, you'll be dreaming
that you don't need to breathe;
that breathless silence is
the music of the dark
and it's part of the rhythm
to vanish like a spark.
Only a death like that.  A rose
could prick you harder, I suppose;
you'd feel more terror at the sound
of petals falling to the ground.
 
Only a world like that.  To die
just that much. And to live just so.
And all the rest is Bach's fugue, played
for the time being
on a saw.
 
~ Wislawa Szymborska ~


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Re: On Death and Dying
« Reply #16 on: October 05, 2007, 09:24:48 PM »
On Death

Then Almitra spoke, saying, "We would ask now of Death."

And he said:

You would know the secret of death.

But how shall you find it unless you seek it in the heart of life?

The owl whose night-bound eyes are blind unto the day cannot unveil the mystery of light.

If you would indeed behold the spirit of death, open your heart wide unto the body of life.

For life and death are one, even as the river and the sea are one.

In the depth of your hopes and desires lies your silent knowledge of the beyond;

And like seeds dreaming beneath the snow your heart dreams of spring.

Trust the dreams, for in them is hidden the gate to eternity.

Your fear of death is but the trembling of the shepherd when he stands before the king whose hand is to be laid upon him in honour.

Is the shepherd not joyful beneath his trembling, that he shall wear the mark of the king?

Yet is he not more mindful of his trembling?

For what is it to die but to stand naked in the wind and to melt into the sun?

And what is to cease breathing, but to free the breath from its restless tides, that it may rise and expand and seek God unencumbered?

Only when you drink from the river of silence shall you indeed sing.

And when you have reached the mountain top, then you shall begin to climb.

And when the earth shall claim your limbs, then shall you truly dance.

 

- Khalil Gibran

 
Without constant complete silence meditation - samadi - we lose ourselves in the game.  MM

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Re: On Death and Dying
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2007, 05:50:30 AM »
As a blind man feels when he finds a pearl in a dustbin, so am I amazed by the miracles of awakening rising in my consciousness. It is the nectar of immortality that delivers us from death, the treasure that lifts us from death, the treasure that lifts us above poverty into the wealth of giving to life, the tree that gives shade to us when we roam about scorched by life, the bridge that takes us across the stormy river of life, the cool moon of compassion that calms our mind when it is agitated, the fun that dispels darkness, the butter made from the milk of kindness by churning it with the dharma. It is a feast of joy to which all are invited.

~Shantideva

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Re: On Death and Dying
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2007, 08:05:08 AM »
On Hearing of a Death

We lack all knowledge of this parting. Death
does not deal with us. We have no reason
to show death admiration, love or hate;
his mask of feigned tragic lament gives us

a false impression. The world's stage is still
filled with roles which we play. While we worry
that our performances may not please,
death also performs, although to no applause.

But as you left us, there broke upon this stage
a glimpse of reality, shown through the slight
opening through which you dissapeared: green,
evergreen, bathed in sunlight, actual woods.

We keep on playiing, still anxious, our difficult roles
declaiming, accompanied by matching gestures
as required. But your presence so suddenly
removed from our midst and from our play, at times

overcomes us like a sense of that other
reality: yours, that we are so overwhelmed
and play our actual lives instead of the performance,
forgetting altogether the applause.

~Rilke
 

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Re: On Death and Dying
« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2007, 09:06:09 PM »
Do not stand at my grave and weep;
I am not there, I do not sleep.
I am a thousand winds that blow,
I am the diamond's gilt on snow.
I am the sunlight on ripened grain,
I am the gentle autumn's rain.
When you awaken in the morning's hush
I am the swift uplifting rush
Of quiet birds in circled flight.
I am the soft stars that shine at night.
Do not stand at my grave and cry;
I am not there, I did not die.
  -Unknown

The power of death is what we give it. 
How it changes a relationship,
but cannot end it.
   -Karen
The journey becomes an adventure only when the baggage gets lost.

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Re: On Death and Dying
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2007, 09:08:25 PM »
How it changes a relationship,
but cannot end it.

yes

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Re: On Death and Dying
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2007, 04:00:58 AM »
Death
   
Come thou, thou last one, whom I recognize,
unbearable pain throughout this body's fabric:
as I in my spirit burned, see, I now burn in thee:
the wood that long resisted the advancing flames
which thou kept flaring, I now am nourishinig
and burn in thee.

My gentle and mild being through thy ruthless fury
has turned into a raging hell that is not from here.
Quite pure, quite free of future planning, I mounted
the tangled funeral pyre built for my suffering,
so sure of nothing more to buy for future needs,
while in my heart the stored reserves kept silent.

Is it still I, who there past all recognition burn?
Memories I do not seize and bring inside.
O life! O living! O to be outside!
And I in flames. And no one here who knows me.
 
~Rilke

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Re: On Death and Dying
« Reply #22 on: October 10, 2007, 07:51:27 AM »
Now the flames they followed Joan of Arc
As she came riding through the dark;
No moon to keep her armour bright,
No man to get her through this very smoky night.
She said, "I’m tired of the war,
I want the kind of work I had before,
A wedding dress or something white
To wear upon my swollen appetite."

Well, I’m glad to hear you talk this way,
You know I’ve watched you riding every day
And something in me yearns to win
Such a cold and lonesome heroine.
"and who are you? " she sternly spoke
To the one beneath the smoke.
"why, I’m fire," he replied,
"and I love your solitude, I love your pride."

"then fire, make your body cold,
I’m going to give you mine to hold,"
Saying this she climbed inside
To be his one, to be his only bride.
And deep into his fiery heart
He took the dust of Joan of Arc,
And high above the wedding guests
He hung the ashes of her wedding dress.

It was deep into his fiery heart
He took the dust of Joan of Arc,
And then she clearly understood
If he was fire, oh then she must be wood.
I saw her wince, I saw her cry,
I saw the glory in her eye.
Myself I long for love and light,
But must it come so cruel, and oh so bright?

~Leonard Cohen~
"The compulsion to possess and hold on to things is not unique. Everyone who wants to follow the warrior's path has to rid himself of this fixation in order not to focus our dreaming body on the weak face of the second attention." - The Eagle's Gift

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Re: On Death and Dying
« Reply #23 on: October 10, 2007, 08:00:35 AM »
Rather gruesome poem.

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Re: On Death and Dying
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2007, 08:06:48 AM »
one of my favourite songs - i used to do this one myself, and especially liked the La La's at the end.

I’m tired of the war,
I want the kind of work I had before


what a great line - i'm often using thru the day, but no one knows where it comes from.

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Re: On Death and Dying
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2007, 08:44:17 AM »
Rather gruesome poem.

I find it beautiful    :)
"The compulsion to possess and hold on to things is not unique. Everyone who wants to follow the warrior's path has to rid himself of this fixation in order not to focus our dreaming body on the weak face of the second attention." - The Eagle's Gift

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Re: On Death and Dying
« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2007, 08:45:38 AM »
I find it beautiful    :)

I dont - she suffered like hell when burned at the stake! I know the poet meant it to give honor - however, Ive always seen Joan's life as a tragedy - she had a great gift, and when she shared it, well - for her time, that gift was not only misunderstood, and feared, but used against her.

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Re: On Death and Dying
« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2007, 09:31:42 AM »
I dont - she suffered like hell when burned at the stake! I know the poet meant it to give honor - however, Ive always seen Joan's life as a tragedy - she had a great gift, and when she shared it, well - for her time, that gift was not only misunderstood, and feared, but used against her.

True.
What I find beautiful, is the love Leonard Cohen caresses her, with his words.
"The compulsion to possess and hold on to things is not unique. Everyone who wants to follow the warrior's path has to rid himself of this fixation in order not to focus our dreaming body on the weak face of the second attention." - The Eagle's Gift

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Re: On Death and Dying
« Reply #28 on: November 03, 2007, 07:04:54 PM »
Making a Fist



For the first time, on the road north of Tampico,
I felt the life sliding out of me,
a drum in the desert, harder and harder to hear.
I was seven, I lay in the car
watching palm trees swirl a sickening pattern past the glass.
My stomach was a melon split wide inside my skin.

"How do you know if you are going to die?"
I begged my mother.
We had been traveling for days.
With strange confidence she answered,
"When you can no longer make a fist."

Years later I smile to think of that journey,
the borders we must cross separately,
stamped with our unanswerable woes.
I who did not die, who am still living,
still lying in the backseat behind all my questions,
clenching and opening one small hand.
 

Naomi Shihab Nye


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Re: On Death and Dying
« Reply #29 on: February 11, 2008, 05:13:51 AM »

Inhale, exhale
Forward, back
Living, dying:
Arrows, let flown each to each
Meet midway and slice
The void in aimless flight --
Thus I return to the source.


Gesshu Soko
17th Century Japan

 

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