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Stalking
« on: August 08, 2007, 02:45:03 AM »
If you feel agitated, out of balance, frustrated...

There is Tibetan method Julie told about - name in a loud voice all imaginable reasons for your agitation or frustration. When you hit the right one, you'll feel the restlessness easing up.

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Re: Stalking
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2007, 03:27:29 AM »
You know, E, there is much value in this, as I am just finding out again.  I have posted here before about the changes going on at my work over the last several months.  But, you know what, IT IS I who have not changed with everything else.  There is a new generation of staff and ethics where I work I must get with the program.  I am alive there in this way because of my expectations and I must be reborn in this, so I am going to speak persnally with a couple of the new team members who's actions have kept themselves in agitation.  I watched one of the new girls playing around at work, screwing up stuff left and right and not even blinking.  When I brought these up to her she told me to shut up.  So, guess what, my Friends?  Ha!  I'm gonna do just that except for telling her that whatever she does is up to her and I will butt out, PERIOD. 

NOw, how's THAT for self-stalking.  It'll take some time to adjust but I feel the release of pressure already, just making this effort toward alleviating my out-of-balancedness.  I stood at the mirror today and loudly spoke out and the right words echoed for me.  Thanks, Julie!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Stalking
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2007, 04:32:29 AM »
Great idea, thanks Julie, Juhani.

I'll do this, and see what comes of it.

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The ultimate stalking - unbending intent for freedom
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2008, 02:35:08 AM »
"In the final analysis," he began, "my aversion to the old sorcerers' activities is very personal. As a nagual, I detest what they did. They cowardly sought refuge in the inorganic beings' world. They argued that in a predatorial universe poised to rip us apart, the only possible haven for us is in that realm."

"Why did they believe that?" I asked.

"Because it's true," he said. "Since the inorganic beings can't lie, the sales pitch of the dreaming emissary is all true. That world can give us shelter and prolong our awareness for nearly an eternity."

"The emissary's sales pitch, even if it's the truth, has no appeal to me," I said.

"Do you mean you will chance a road that might rip you apart?" he asked with a note of bewilderment in his voice.

I assured don Juan that I did not want the inorganic beings' world no matter what advantages it offered. My statement seemed to please him to no end.

"You are ready then for one final statement about that world. The most dreadful statement I can make," he said, and tried smile, but did not quite make it. Don Juan searched in my eyes, I suppose for a glimmer agreement or comprehension. He was silent for a moment.

"The energy necessary to move the assemblage points of sorcerers comes from the realm of inorganic beings," he said, as if he were hurrying to get it over with.

My heart nearly stopped. I felt a vertigo and had to stomp my feet on the ground not to faint.Don Juan went on, "This is the truth, and the legacy of the old sorcerers to us. They have us pinned down to this day. This is the reason I don't like them. I resent having to dip into one source alone. Personally, I refuse to do it.

"And I have tried to steer you away from it; but with no success because something pulls you to that world, like a magnet."

I understood don Juan better than I could have thought. Journeying to that world had always meant to me, at an energetic level, a boost of dark energy. I had even thought of it in those terms, long before don Juan voiced his statement.

"What can we do about it?" I asked.

"We can't have dealings with them," he answered, "and yet we can't stay away from them. My solution has been to take their energy but not give in to their influence. This is known as the ultimate stalking. It is done by sustaining the unbending intent of freedom even though no sorcerer knows what freedom really is."

"Can you explain to me, don Juan, why sorcerers have to take energy from the realm of inorganic beings?"

"There is no other viable energy for sorcerers. In order to maneuver the assemblage point in the manner they do, sorcerers need an inordinate amount of energy."

I reminded him of his own statement: that a redeployment of energy is necessary in order to do dreaming.

"That is correct," he replied. "To start dreaming sorcerers need to redefine their premises and save their energy, but that redefining is valid only to have the necessary energy to set up dreaming. To fly into other realms, to see energy, to forge the energy body, et cetera, et cetera, is another matter. For those maneuvers, sorcerers need loads of dark, alien energy."

"But how do they take it from the inorganic beings' world?"

"By the mere act of going to that world. All the sorcerers of our line have to do this. However, none of us is idiotic enough to do what you've done. But this is because none of us has your proclivities."

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Re: Stalking
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2008, 03:36:45 PM »
Juhani...

Which one of the books is this from?

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Re: Stalking
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Re: Stalking
« Reply #6 on: July 16, 2008, 02:03:38 AM »
'The Art of Dreaming':
http://www.scribd.com/doc/2582198/THE-ART-OF-DREAMING

Thanks!  I need to re-read that book, so this came as a good reminder.  :)
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Re: Stalking
« Reply #7 on: July 16, 2008, 02:15:56 AM »
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Re: The ultimate stalking - unbending intent for freedom
« Reply #8 on: July 16, 2008, 04:43:28 AM »
" This is known as the ultimate stalking. It is done by sustaining the unbending intent of freedom even though no sorcerer knows what freedom really is."


Heh, almost what I've always said. But my version is a bit different. When the students ask for a path to freedom I ask in return - Freedom from what? When the chains of old patterns and clinging are broken and significant healing has taken place one is no longer bound to the same. Man finds him or herself standing free with the face against the wind. But that is not freedom, that is when the task really begin - the first steps in The Mastery of Intent.

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Re: The ultimate stalking - unbending intent for freedom
« Reply #9 on: July 16, 2008, 04:45:37 AM »
" All the sorcerers of our line have to do this. However, none of us is idiotic enough to do what you've done. But this is because none of us has your proclivities."[/i]

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Re: The ultimate stalking - unbending intent for freedom
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2008, 09:20:02 PM »
"The energy necessary to move the assemblage points of sorcerers comes from the realm of inorganic beings," he said, as if he were hurrying to get it over with.

My heart nearly stopped. I felt a vertigo and had to stomp my feet on the ground not to faint.



Aren't we crazy? How we so vehemently defend them?

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Re: The ultimate stalking - unbending intent for freedom
« Reply #11 on: August 01, 2008, 06:37:26 PM »
Aren't we crazy? How we so vehemently defend them?

Maybe it is because of their voice in our heads? So very authoritative and telling us what we already know and telling us how very cool and wise we are?

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A few months later, my dreaming practices took a strange turn. I began to get, in my dreams, replies to questions I was planning to ask don Juan. The most impressive part of this oddity was that it quickly lapsed into my waking hours.

One day, while I was sitting at my desk, I got a reply to an unvoiced question about the realness of inorganic beings. I had seen inorganic beings in dreams so many times I had begun to think of them as real. I reminded myself I had even touched one, in a state of seminormal consciousness in the Sonoran desert. And my dreams had been periodically deviated to views of worlds I seriously doubted could have been products of my mentality.

I wished to give don Juan my best shot, in terms of a concise query, so I molded a question in my mind: If one is to accept that inorganic beings are as real as people, where, in the physicality of the universe, is the realm in which they exist?

After formulating the question to myself, I heard a strange laughter, just as I had the day I wrestled with the inorganic being. Then a man's voice answered me. "That realm exists in a particular position of the assemblage point," it said. "Just like your world exists in the habitual position of the assemblage point."

The last thing I wanted was to enter into a dialogue with a disembodied voice, so I stood up and ran out of my house. The thought occurred to me that I was losing my mind. Another worry to add to my collection of worries.The voice had been so clear and authoritative that it not only intrigued me but terrified me. I waited with great trepidation for oncoming barrages of that voice, but the event was never repeated. At the first opportunity I had, I consulted with don Juan.

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"It's just like I said," don Juan remarked.

"The emissary didn't tell you anything new. Its statements were correct, but it only seemed to be revealing things to you. What the emissary did was merely repeat what you already knew."

"I'm afraid I can't claim that I knew all that, don Juan."

"Yes, you can. You know now infinitely more about the mystery of the universe than what you rationally suspect. But that's our human malady, to know more about the mystery of the universe than we suspect."

"He's right," the voice said.

"You like me because you find nothing wrong with exploring all possibilities. You want knowledge: Knowledge is power. You don't want to remain safe in the routines and beliefs of your daily world."

The emissary said all that in English with a marked Pacific Coast intonation. Then it shifted into Spanish. I heard a slight Argentine accent. I had never heard the emissary speaking like this before. It fascinated me. The emissary told me about fulfillment; knowledge; about how far away I was from my birthplace; about my craving for adventure and my near obsession with new things; new horizons. The voice even talked to me in Portuguese with a definite inflection from the southern pampas.

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"Do you mean, don Juan, that every dreamer hears or sees the emissary?"

"Everyone hears the emissary. Very few see it or feel it."

 

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