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Re: Jahn's JukeBox
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Angie - from 1973
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Here, live at Roundhay Park, Leeds / 1982
Still playing with Bill Wyman ...
 


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Welcome to Sweden (again) - Mr Bob Dylan
« Reply #1188 on: October 14, 2016, 06:58:43 AM »
Bob Dylan got the Polar Price in 2000 and now he gets the Nobel Prize for literature - !
http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/bob-dylan-wins-the-nobel-prize-for-literature-2016-a7359151.html

Positively 4th Street

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A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCGoOPM2_x0

Bob Dylan & Ron Wood & Keith Richards-Blowin' in the Wind (Live aid 1985)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqEcFUW9Ai4

The Rolling Stones & Bob Dylan Like a Rolling Stone live Rio de Janeiro

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Re: Jahn's JukeBox
« Reply #1189 on: October 15, 2016, 03:27:16 AM »
I was really surprised about the Nobel Prize --- I don't know what to make of it. Writing poetry and writing song lyrics are two different skills.... Or maybe I'm a snob. When did "song lyrics" make it into consideration for the Nobel Prize?
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Re: Jahn's JukeBox
« Reply #1190 on: October 15, 2016, 09:08:49 AM »
I am not a fan of Dylan, but frankly, the man has been a massive influence - I was not surprised he has been acknowledged. I don't think any other poet/songwriter comes close to his output, sustain and ability to reflect the times.

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Re: Jahn's JukeBox
« Reply #1191 on: October 15, 2016, 11:04:44 AM »
I am not a fan of Dylan, but frankly, the man has been a massive influence - I was not surprised he has been acknowledged. I don't think any other poet/songwriter comes close to his output, sustain and ability to reflect the times.

You're right- I just have never been aware of a lyricist getting a Nobel before.
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Re: Jahn's JukeBox
« Reply #1192 on: October 15, 2016, 02:02:36 PM »
You're right- I just have never been aware of a lyricist getting a Nobel before.

Yes, well that is the contention apparently.

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Re: Jahn's JukeBox
« Reply #1193 on: October 17, 2016, 06:41:18 AM »
I was really surprised about the Nobel Prize --- I don't know what to make of it. Writing poetry and writing song lyrics are two different skills.... Or maybe I'm a snob. When did "song lyrics" make it into consideration for the Nobel Prize?

Well, the reasons have been explained. The Nobel Academy sees Bob Dylan as a Bard belonging to the very and varied ancient traditions forward to our Days and in to the future. In Sweden, it is no secret that Dylan has been one of the presumptive winners of the Prize for several years.

The Nobel Academy argue that his lyrics is outstanding, even in a literally strict context within his singer- songwriter career, and he is given credit to also  brought a new era for mankind through his work as an artist in music. I suppose that there is about where there they are regarding their decision, and of course there have been a few critical voices from people that expected another unknown author to win the Prize in litearture.
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Some gems from Bob
« Reply #1194 on: October 17, 2016, 06:48:38 AM »
Album Oh Mercy
Most of the time
I am afraid that I can't provide the link to this track - but if you google YouTube with
Bob Dylan Most of the Time you get this kind of Link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQbr4?SrjII
The Man in the Long Black Coat

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggOdt_AKQAE
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Why the Nobel Prize in Literature to Bob Dylan?
« Reply #1195 on: October 18, 2016, 06:06:53 AM »

Nobel honors Bob Dylan, bard for a changing world


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Re: Jahn's JukeBox
« Reply #1196 on: October 18, 2016, 10:39:52 PM »
15 years in a row - that's dedication.

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Why Bob Dylan is "the real deal"
« Reply #1197 on: October 19, 2016, 06:37:50 AM »

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Re: Jahn's JukeBox
« Reply #1198 on: October 19, 2016, 07:20:42 AM »
I think something utterly unique needs to have been created for him. Certainly lifetime achievement. Certainly a generational acknowledgement. Grammies galore. His work is mostly connected with music. Perhaps the Nobel committee could have created a new niche for him, one that takes into account a lifetime of zeitgeist-watching. If not zeitgeist-molding.  I like your idea of the musical bard. 

When I think of a book which won the Nobel prize for Literature, I think, "Ah! Here must be a superior, outstanding level of writing." The book would be a must-read, and I wouldn't need musical accompaniment to read it. This is my main contention for it falling into the "Literature" category. Does the work stand without music.

In the same breath that I say this, I acknowledge that he has been an enormous influence. But the quality of it is so different than can be fetched through the reading. Literature - reading  - literature - reading - literature - reading.

As I said, perhaps the Nobel committee could have created something special and unique for him. He surely deserves it. Too late now, though. As I understand it, done is done.

It's just my opinion. I gather you and M see it differently, and I'm cool with that. Many agree with you.
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Re: Jahn's JukeBox
« Reply #1199 on: October 19, 2016, 08:08:20 AM »
I'm not of an opinion one way or the other. I can see both sides of the argument, but I can't see a clearly defining reason in my mind to opt for either side.

I guess we have to accept it is a decision by the Nobel committee, and it's their prize. But that's no reason not to give them feedback. It has caused a lot of discussion in many interested groups.

 

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