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« Reply #2985 on: April 09, 2025, 03:49:22 AM »
Hey Tom Petty! So the Orange Nostradumbass, who predicts we will be sooooo much richer and better off per his strategies, knocked a cool 10 trillion off the stock market. Trying to see the big payoff here folks. Of course, he is doing this on purpose. Several reasons. One, he wants the world to come begging on his doorstep. Two, this will be a good way for the middle and lower class to lose any wealth they had, and the oligarchs can buy for dirt cheap and assume more power. And he just imposed an additional 104% tariff on China.

https://english.elpais.com/economy-and-business/2025-04-08/the-tariff-bomb-wipes-out-10-trillion-in-stock-market-value-half-of-the-eus-entire-gdp.html

The tariff bomb wipes out $10 trillion in stock market value, half of the EU’s entire GDP
Big tech companies lead the losses, with €1.5 trillion cumulatively shed since Thursday from the Magnificent Seven’s market capitalization

Madrid - APR 08, 2025 - 04:21 EDT


The destruction of value caused by Donald Trump’s tariffs is historic in the equity markets. The loss of market capitalization worldwide has reached $10 trillion (€9.2 trillion), according to Bloomberg. That is a figure equivalent to just over half of the GDP of the European Union. For part of Monday’s session, the S&P 500 index, the benchmark for the U.S. stock market, accumulated three consecutive drops of 4% for the first time since the Great Depression. The session-by-session collapse was also the largest since the Black Monday crisis of 1987, surpassing the losses recorded during the outbreak of the Covid pandemic (13% in three sessions), the bankruptcy of Lehman Brothers (13.9%), or the losses of 1998 (11.7%). In 1987, the U.S. stock market plummeted 26% over the course of three days.

While stocks have felt the impact globally, value destruction operates on a different scale in the United States. The so-called Magnificent Seven (Apple, Google, Nvidia, Meta, Amazon, Microsoft and Tesla) are the global companies that have lost the most stock market value, totaling €1.5 trillion since Thursday. The leaders of five of these businesses attended Trump’s inauguration: the top executives of Amazon (Jeff Bezos), Google (Sundar Pichai), Meta (Mark Zuckerberg), Apple (Tim Cook), and, of course, Tesla (Elon Musk). These five companies have incurred losses of €1.26 trillion in three days due to Trump’s tariff policy.

Apple leads the list, with losses of more than half a trillion dollars. Nvidia comes next with $385 billion, followed by Amazon, with $262 billion, ahead of the rest of the Magnificent Seven. Tesla has lost the least value, but that is because it is the least valuable of the group. Apple’s value drop has been very large in percentage terms (16.8%) and in absolute value, as it is directly impacted by the tariffs; analysts expect sharp price increases for its devices, which are manufactured entirely in Asia. In contrast, Meta and Google, which are both software-focused companies, have lost less than half that amount in relative terms. “This sudden volatility comes after a long period of calm in the stock market,” according to the wealth management group Mirabaud, “which makes the recent sell-off even more striking.” According to this asset manager, private investors have abandoned technology, and hedge funds have followed suit.

Coming behind the Magnificent Seven in terms of stock market losses is the leading non-U.S. stock, the Saudi state oil company Aramco, which lost €126 billion, albeit only 8% in value. Then come the giants of the traditional U.S. economy: JP Morgan, Eli Lilly, Berkshire Hathaway, Visa, Exxon Mobil, Walmart, Bank of America... Icons of the great America championed by Trump, who have nevertheless suffered firsthand from the president’s attempts to reverse globalization and have hemorrhaged more than €50 billion in three days. UBS analysts have remarked that the spike in volatility is fundamental and could be long-lasting: “This won’t suddenly fade away unless we start to see signs that the U.S. might not enter a recession or tariffs begin to ease.”

European companies are typically smaller than American ones, which is why their market capitalization losses have also been more modest. So far, the European stocks that have lost the most market capitalization are British companies: HSBC and Shell, followed by Siemens (Germany), LVMH (France), Total (France), and SAP (Germany). Companies from Denmark (Novo Nordisk), Ireland (Accenture), and the Netherlands (ASML) are also on the list of the biggest losers. Other companies include some from China (Alibaba), Japan (Toyota and Mitsubishi), Taiwan (TSMC), which lost €78 billion in value in just one session (last week was partly a holiday in the country), and Samsung, with €35 billion in three days.

Without trade negotiations or concessions on the horizon, the market seems headed for more jitters and instability, a scenario with an end-of-an-era feel that is being echoed in investment banking reports. “Investors must now confront the possibility that Pax Americana (American peace, in Latin), an era of relative stability and global order under the influence of the United States after World War II, is coming to an end,” reported Muzinich & Co., an investment firm whose CEO was Undersecretary of the Treasury in Trump’s first term.















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« Reply #2986 on: April 09, 2025, 06:26:41 AM »
Baby Eyeliner putting the proverbial foot in the mouth again and getting owned by the Chinese:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/08/china/china-slams-vance-peasants-remarks-intl-hnk/index.html

China lashes out at JD Vance for comments about ‘Chinese peasants’
Nectar Gan
By Nectar Gan, CNN
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Updated 11:44 AM EDT, Tue April 8, 2025

China on Tuesday slammed US Vice President JD Vance for his comments about “Chinese peasants” in an interview that has drawn widespread ire and ridicule on China’s internet – and comparisons with Vance’s own self-proclaimed “hillbilly” background.

Speaking to Fox News last Thursday, Vance defended President Donald Trump’s market-hammering tariffs and railed against the “globalist economy.”

“What has the globalist economy gotten the United States of America? And the answer is, fundamentally, it’s based on two principles – incurring a huge amount of debt to buy things that other countries make for us,” Vance told news show “Fox & Friends.”

“To make it a little more crystal clear, we borrow money from Chinese peasants to buy the things those Chinese peasants manufacture.”

Asked about Vance’s comments at a regular news briefing Tuesday, Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesperson Lin Jian said: “It’s both astonishing and lamentable to hear this vice president make such ignorant and disrespectful remarks.”

CNN has reached out to Vance’s office for comment.

Clips of Vance’s interview made their way to the Chinese internet this week, drawing an intense backlash in a country where factory floors are lined with industrial robots, cities are embracing homegrown electric vehicles and remote counties are connected by a nationwide web of high-speed railways.

“This true ‘peasant’ who came out of rural America seems to have a lack of perspective,” said Hu Xijin, the influential former editor-in-chief of state-run tabloid Global Times, in a post on microblogging site Weibo. “Many people are urging him to come and see China for himself.”

A hashtag on Vance’s remarks became the top trending topic on Weibo on Monday night. By Tuesday afternoon, it had racked up 140 million views.

“Look, this is their true face — arrogant and rude as always,” said a comment with 2,900 likes.

“We may be peasants, but we have the world’s best high-speed rail system, the most powerful logistics capabilities, and leading AI, autonomous driving, and drone technologies. Aren’t such peasants quite impressive?” another said.

Others noted the irony of Vance’s comments given his own working-class upbringing as depicted in his 2016 memoir “Hillbilly Elegy.”

In the book, Vance chronicles a childhood plagued by poverty, abuse and his mother’s drug addiction and spent partly in Appalachia, a corner of the United States he felt had been forgotten by wealthy elites. The book by Vance – a venture capitalist before his foray into politics – caused a sensation after Trump’s first election win and was widely seen as an explanation for the billionaire’s rise among the White working class.





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« Reply #2987 on: April 10, 2025, 12:49:33 AM »
Here we go and the Orange Nostradumbass did it! So we have 104% tariff on China, they hit back now it's 84%. They know we get more stuff from China than anything. Now I see why my son said, all his customers went in to upgrade phones now. Yep! Everything comes from China. I guess I gotta hold on tee shirts. Folks better hit the thrift store for clothes. I need a new coffee maker soon shit. I hope I don't need a tv or computer in the near future. I feel for farmers how they may get hit, unless they voted for the Deluded Melon. Then they have it comin. The scoop:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QijtQPyhTO8
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« Reply #2988 on: April 10, 2025, 01:55:47 AM »
Yes, this is what the Orange Menace wanted. World leaders "kissing" his "ass" and now he says he is going to tariff hard pharmaceuticals, which is going to cause people to most likely die, cause their medication will be unaffordable. In true antichrist fashion. The scoop:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/09/trump-address-republicans-china-tariffs

Trump brags world leaders are ‘kissing my ass’ as tariff chaos rocks markets
President boasts at National Republican Congressional Committee dinner: ‘I know what I’m doing’

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Trump brags world leaders are ‘kissing my ass’ as tariff chaos rocks markets
President boasts at National Republican Congressional Committee dinner: ‘I know what I’m doing’

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Wed 9 Apr 2025 10.08 EDT
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Donald Trump has insisted “I know what the hell I’m doing” by imposing sweeping tariffs and bragged that world leaders are “kissing my ass” as they try to negotiate trade deals.

The US president was speaking to political donors at the National Republican Congressional Committee’s annual fundraising dinner in Washington on Tuesday night.

His rambling 90-minute address came just hours before his latest tariffs – including a 104% levy on China – went into effect. But he gave no hint of backing down from a policy that has sent markets into meltdown and triggered a global trade war.

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“I know what the hell I’m doing,” the president said. “I know what I’m doing. And you know what I’m doing too. That’s why you vote for me.”

The administration has given conflicting signals over whether the tariffs are open to negotiation. Trump claimed: “I’m telling you, these countries are calling us up, kissing my ass. They are. They are dying to make a deal.”

Mocking the pleas of foreign leaders, he parodied: “Please, please, sir, make a deal. I’ll do anything. I’ll do anything, sir!”

“We’re going to tariff our pharmaceuticals and once we do that they’re going to come rushing back into our country because we’re the big market… So, we’re going to be announcing very shortly a major tariff on pharmaceuticals.”

The tariffs, announced last week on what Trump billed as “liberation day”, have wiped trillions of dollars off the US stock market and raised fears of a global recession; on Wednesday China slapped 84% retaliatory tariffs on US goods. Larry Summers, a former treasury secretary, described it as “the biggest self-inflicted wound we’ve put on our economy in history”.

Even Republicans, unswervingly loyal on other issues, are increasingly uneasy. Several senators have signed on to a bipartisan bill that would require presidents to justify new tariffs to Congress. Don Bacon of Nebraska has said he will introduce a House version of the bill, saying that Congress needs to restore its powers over tariffs.

But Trump lashed out at the dissenters on Tuesday night. The author of The Art of the Deal said: “I see some rebel Republican, some guy who wants to grandstand, say, ‘I think that Congress should take over negotiations.’ Let me tell you, you don’t negotiate like I negotiate.

“I just saw it today, a couple of your congressmen, sir. ‘I think we should get involved in the negotiation of the tariffs.’ Oh that’s what I need, I need some guy telling me how to negotiate.”

Despite the turmoil, he claimed that he had the “most successful 100 days in the history of this country” and the stage was now “set for a monumental victory for the Republicans in the midterms” next year.

Turning to his signature issues, border security and immigration, the president revived a popular culture reference from his election campaign last year: Hannibal Lecter, the fictional serial killer from The Silence of the Lambs.

“They used to go crazy when I talked about … the late, great Hannibal Lecter. Right? ‘Why does he talk about that? He’s a fictional character.’ He’s not. We have many of them that came across the border. He’s actually not.

“But when the people went to the voting booth, then we understood why he talked about that because they voted for us. They say, ‘We don’t want Hannibal Lecter in our country.’”

The dinner was also notable for a slip of the tongue by Tom Emmer, a Republican congressman from Minnesota. He told the audience: “President cunt – Trump is counting on us!”, hastily correcting himself.

The error was caught with glee by social media users. The Lincoln Project, an anti-Trump group, tweeted: “Had it right the first time.”

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« Reply #2989 on: April 10, 2025, 04:59:44 AM »
The Deluded Melon breaks the system, and on his Truth Social announced a good time to buy, strategically sending a signal to his rich friends, and then announced a 90 day pause on tariffs, except China. Now stock market rises, and the rich get richer.

Of course.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/08/stock-market-today-live-updates-.html

Updated Wed, Apr 9 20252:49 PM EDT

Dow surges 2,300 points for biggest rally in 5 years after Trump pauses some tariffs: Live updates


Stocks surged Wednesday after President Donald Trump announced a pause in some of the ‘reciprocal’ tariffs, causing a market that’s been under extreme pressure for the last week to explode higher.

The S&P 500
 skyrocketed 7.6%, on pace for its biggest one-day gain in five years. The Dow Jones Industrial Average
 advanced 2,423 points, or 6.4%, also its biggest gain since 2020. The Nasdaq Composite
 jumped 9.8%.

“I have authorized a 90 day PAUSE, and a substantially lowered Reciprocal Tariff during this period, of 10%, also effective immediately,” Trump posted on his Truth Social. Trump, in the same post, said he was raising the tariff on China higher again to 125%.

Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent later clarified that all countries except China would go back to the 10% baseline tariff rate as negotiations take place. The pause would not apply to sector tariffs, Bessent said.

Stocks that were heavily pressured by the trade war tensions led the comeback Wednesday afternoon. Apple and Nvidia soared more than 11% and 13%, respectively. Walmart shares rallied 9.7%. Tesla shares climbed more than 19% on the back of the pause announcement.

“Given how depressed stock prices and sentiment had become, the 90-day pause is sparking a violent rebound, and delaying implementation certainly removes a giant overhang from the market,” said Adam Crisafulli. “But – tariffs are not going away. China’s tariff rate is now in triple digit territory, and who knows what happens in 90 days when this pause concludes.”

“This allows for at least a near-term rally, but I would not assume that the bottom has been put in place,” added Sam Stovall, chief investment strategist at CFRA Research. “Fool me once shame on you; fool me five times, shame on me.”

Prior to the announcement of the 90-day pause, investors were on edge over an escalating tit-for-tat between China and Trump. The EU had also approved its first set of tariffs on the U.S. set to start April 15.

Nonetheless, stocks were trending higher into the afternoon. Traders were encouraged after Bessent stated he would be taking a lead negotiating role in tariff talks. President Trump also urged investors that now was “a great time to buy” shortly after the market open.

Anxiety around the rollout of the tariffs fueled a four-day rout for stocks. Over the course of the previous four trading sessions, the Dow lost more than 4,500 points, while the S&P 500 sustained a 12% loss. The Nasdaq Composite
 was down more than 13% in that period. These were losses not seen since the pandemic.

Bristol-Myers Squibb bucks market rally
There was one notable exception in the market rally following President Donald Trump’s announcement of a 90-day pause on some tariffs: Bristol-Myers Squibb
.

The biopharmaceutical stock was the sole loser in the entire S&P 500
 on Wednesday afternoon. While the broad index soared more than 6%, Bristol-Myers Squibb slid around 0.4% shortly after 1:45 p.m. ET.

Expectations for rate cuts diminish after Trump tariff move
Traders quickly pared back their expectations for Federal Reserve interest rate cuts this year following President Donald Trump’s announcement Wednesday to pause new tariffs.

The market is now looking for just three reductions this year, assuming quarter percentage point increments, according to the CME Group’s FedWatch gauge of futures contracts. That’s down from as high as five a a few days ago.

June is still the likely starting point for the cuts, following a brief move where traders thought the Fed could go in May.

—Jeff Cox

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Walmart stock pops 10%, heads for best day since 2020
Shares of Walmart surged nearly 11% on Wednesday afternoon, shortly after President Donald Trump announced a 90-day tariff pause for at least some countries.

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« Reply #2990 on: April 10, 2025, 06:37:51 AM »
Yes crazy the chatter online. So I told everyone over a month ago this. And mentioned it last night, trying to answer the why. Crash the stock market, everyone sells. Stocks go down down down in price, then let the rich buy at dirt cheap, then he gives the "nod" and everyone buys, stock market now up. Boom. The rich got richer.

Market Manipulation with a dash of insider trading.

Then the second reason he did this, we got a pause. Now he can deal with the countries, and take some nice bribes to get them off, the tariffs, and put money in his pocket.

China refused to play along so he upped the ante on them.

I saw it coming.
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« Reply #2991 on: April 10, 2025, 08:48:54 AM »
Now I am home and I can sit with the spin and digest the chaos.

MAGA nutjobs will look at this as an Art of the Deal move, even though they lost on their own 401k's. And the rich bought up stock for dirt cheap, a little market manipulation and insider trading. Trump even put DJT after his post a great time to buy, as a signal to rich buddies basically saying "I am doing you a favor, the market is going to rise, make sure to support my personal cause." Anywho, he then announces the pause and the stocks soar, and all these folks got rich, but those whos stock tanked, and they sold to save themselves? Out of gas.

But an even bigger issue set in, that his whole chess moves were a huge mistake. Now, the world does not trust him, or the US. Alliances are forming outside of the US. I do not believe for one minute, 75 countries are calling and kissing his ass, like he says. Oh, I'm sure, some countries may have called him up. But I just saw today, Europe and India are making some deals. Then we know China, South Korea, and Japan are joining forces. So as no one can take him for his word (will he break the 90 day pause?), the US cannot be trusted. The damage is done, and for a long period of time.
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« Reply #2992 on: April 10, 2025, 10:01:28 AM »
Hawk does a real good job explaining the epic FAIL of the Orange Buttlicker, per the bond market.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2xpw_NTlxU
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« Reply #2993 on: April 11, 2025, 02:28:35 AM »
This FOOL! Stocks gonna fall again. That idiot has now imposed 145% tariffs on China. Let me remind. NONE of this had to happen!

https://www.cnn.com/2025/04/10/investing/us-stock-market-dow-tariffs/index.html

US stocks tumble again as reality sets back in on Wall Street
David Goldman
By David Goldman and John Towfighi, CNN
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Updated 12:24 PM EDT, Thu April 10, 2025

The US stock market, fresh off its third-best day in modern history, is sinking back into reality: Although President Donald Trump paused most of his “reciprocal” tariffs, his other massive import taxes have already inflicted significant damage, and the economy won’t easily recover from the fallout.

Stocks tumbled Thursday, falling deeply into the red after the White House clarified that its tariff on all Chinese goods was at least 145% — even higher than previously believed.

The Dow, after rising nearly 3,000 points Wednesday, fell more than 2,000 points, or 5%, Thursday midday. The S&P 500 fell 5.9% and the Nasdaq Composite slid 6.9%. The S&P 500 is coming off its best day since 2008, and the Nasdaq on Wednesday posted its second-best daily gains in history.

Traders were elated that Trump temporarily rescinded his so-called reciprocal tariffs, which aren’t really reciprocal, for 90 days. Those tariffs placed hefty levies between 11% and 50% on dozens of countries.

Stock futures on Thursday had also responded somewhat positively to the European Union’s announcement that it would temporarily pause its retaliatory tariffs on the United States in hopes of a negotiated trade agreement after Trump’s U-turn. Trump and Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said more than 70 countries were lining up to negotiate trade deals with the United States to get out from under the tariffs, and the Trump administration wanted to provide time to strike deals.

But even after Trump’s about-face, the reality remains stark: Economists said the economic damage is done, and many say there is still an elevated risk of a US and global recession. Stocks are still well below where they were before Trump unveiled his “Liberation Day” tariffs last week, and those large stock market losses, existing tariffs and high degree of uncertainty about American trade policy are enough to sink the economy, they say.

Trump’s universal 10% tariff that went into effect Saturday remains in place, as do 25% tariffs on auto imports, 25% tariffs on steel and aluminum and 25% tariffs on some goods from Canada and Mexico. Trump also pledged to go forward with additional tariffs on pharmaceuticals, lumber, semiconductors and copper.

Goldman Sachs said Wednesday after Trump’s partial detente that recession chances in the United States were still a coin flip. JPMorgan Wednesday evening said the bank would not alter its recession forecasts, still seeing a 60% chance of a US and global recession even after Trump’s “positive” decision to unwind his “draconian” country-specific tariffs.

“My sense here is that the (US) economy is still likely to fall into recession, given the level of simultaneous shocks that it’s absorbed,” Joe Brusuelas, chief economist of consulting firm RSM, told CNN. “All this does is postpone temporarily what will likely be a series of punitive import taxes put on US trade allies.”

New data on Thursday showed that inflation in the US slowed sharply in March. While that is usually welcome news for investors, the focus on Wall Street is firmly on tariffs and the outlook for the economy going forward.

“Thursday’s [data] is for March, which is backward looking and doesn’t tell the market much about how the recent tariffs, albeit many of them on pause, are affecting consumer prices,” said Skyler Weinand, chief investment officer at Regan Capital.

China’s not backing down
Meanwhile, Trump isn’t backing off his alarming trade war with China — in fact, it’s getting worse. Goods coming from China to the United States are now subject to at least a 145% tariff, the White House clarified Thursday. The 125% “reciprocal” tariff Trump announced on China on Wednesday comes on top of the 20% tariff that had already been in place. It hadn’t been clear Wednesday if the tariffs were additive.

Stocks immediately dipped lower after news outlets began reporting the clarification around 11 a.m. ET Thursday.

Also on Thursday, Beijing’s retaliatory 84% tariffs on US imports to China went into effect.

China says it remains willing to negotiate with the United States, but a spokesperson for the Chinese Commerce Ministry also reiterated Thursday that China will not back down if Trump chooses to further escalate the trade war.

“The door to talks is open, but dialogue must be conducted on the basis of mutual respect and equality,” the spokesperson said. “We hope the US will meet China halfway, and work toward resolving differences through dialogue and consultation.”

“If the US chooses confrontation, China will respond in kind. Pressure, threats and blackmail are not the right ways to deal with China,” the spokesperson said.

Signs of stress
Some billionaire investors, who have been pressuring Trump to back off his punishing tariffs, were elated that the president hit pause.

“There are better and worse ways of handling our problems with unsustainable debt and imbalances, and President Trump’s decision to step back from a worse way and negotiate how to deal with these imbalances is a much better way,” billionaire investor Ray Dalio said in a post on X late Wednesday, adding: “I hope… he will do the same with the Chinese.”

But signs of stress remain in markets beyond just stocks. The bond market, which had been selling off alarmingly fast — the 10-year Treasury yield surged past 4.5% Wednesday from under 4% earlier in the week — cooled off just a bit Thursday. Yields rise when bond prices fall.

But the 10-year yield was above 4.3% Thursday morning. That’s not exactly a vote of confidence.

“Bonds are signaling that the pause is significant, yet not much has fundamentally changed,” said ING analysts in a note to investors Thursday. “Markets will not easily forget these episodes with wide market swings.”

Oil prices also remained under pressure. US oil fell again Thursday to below $60 a barrel, near where oil was in April 2021. Prices had fallen dramatically below $57 a barrel Wednesday before recovering. Brent crude, the global benchmark, also fell 4% to around $63 a barrel.

The US dollar index, which measures the dollar’s strength against six foreign currencies, tumbled 1.6% Thursday morning, hitting its lowest level since early October. The dollar has broadly weakened this year, a sign of investors’ concern about the health and stability of the US economy.

Still, global markets recovered sharply Thursday.

Japan’s benchmark Nikkei 225 index finished more than 9% higher, while South Korea’s Kospi index was up 6.6%. Hong Kong’s Hang Seng index jumped 2.1%. Taiwan’s Taiex rose 9.3%. In Australia, the ASX 200 closed up 4.5%.

European stocks surged after European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen paused retaliatory tariffs and said she welcomes Trump’s move to pause his “reciprocal” tariffs.

“It’s an important step towards stabilizing the global economy,” she said Thursday in a statement. “Clear, predictable conditions are essential for trade and supply chains to function.”

Europe’s benchmark STOXX 600 index was 4% higher Thursday. France’s CAC index was up 4.6% and Germany’s DAX jumped 4.9%, while London’s FTSE 100 index rose 3.5%.

CNN’s Nectar Gan and Christian Edwards contributed to this report.














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« Reply #2994 on: April 11, 2025, 05:07:41 AM »
Yes, I knew this would happen. The Orange Toddler Tyrant would do his dumb shit, and he would basically Make China Great Again

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/china-and-eu-discuss-trade-in-response-to-us-punitive-tariffs/ar-AA1CDm0Y?ocid=BingNewsSerp

China and EU discuss trade in response to U.S.' punitive tariffs
Story by Liz Lee and Qiaoyi Li • 17h • 2 min read

By Liz Lee and Qiaoyi Li

BEIJING (Reuters) -China and the European Union have exchanged views on strengthening their economic and trade cooperation in response to U.S. tariffs, the Chinese Commerce Ministry said on Thursday.

In a video call on Tuesday, China's Commerce Minister Wang Wentao discussed with European trade and economic security commissioner Maros Sefcovic the restart of talks on trade relief and to immediately carry out negotiations on electric vehicle price commitments, the Chinese ministry statement said.

The conversation came shortly before before U.S. President Donald Trump's additional tariffs on China started taking effect.

Trump has on Wednesday said he would temporarily lower the hefty duties he had just imposed on dozens of countries in a stunning reversal. He, however, ramped up pressure on China, threatening to raise tariffs on the world's second largest economy to 125%.

China is ready to deepen trade, investment and industrial cooperation with the European Union, Wang told Sefcovic.

Wang urged China and the EU to jointly safeguard the rules-based multilateral trading system and adhere to trade liberalisation and facilitation, "which will inject more stability and certainty into the world economy and global trade", the ministry statement said.

China and EU also discussed creating a more favourable business environment for enterprises and trade transfer issues.

They will continue to strengthen communication under the World Trade Organization framework and jointly promote WTO reform, the ministry statement said.

The EU had imposed additional tariffs of up to 35.3% on China-made electric vehicles at the end of October after an anti-subsidy investigation, on top of the bloc's standard 10% car import tariffs.

The commerce ministry said last week that the two sides have agreed to restart negotiations on minimum price commitments on Chinese EVs but did not specify when that would resume.

(Reporting by Liz Lee, Qiaoyi Li and Shanghai newsroom; Editing by Kim Coghill and Lincoln Feast.)



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« Reply #2995 on: April 11, 2025, 09:05:31 PM »
"There is no descent place to stand in a massacre"
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« Reply #2996 on: April 14, 2025, 04:04:28 AM »
This guy broke down pretty succulently where we are heading. He claims to be bipartisan. He probably doesn't want to create enemies. No matter, what he is saying gives a lot of clarity where we could head here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Topa3LKgolw
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« Reply #2997 on: April 15, 2025, 04:10:10 AM »
So I was just reading about The Deluded Melon defying orders to bring the Maryland immigrant home. Then I read on Bluesky "God" the comedian who says he is him, did announce "Let my people go" and everyone was calling for plagues to be sent. Then I told God "do your worst." Now we got an earthquake.

Coincidence? I think NOT

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5.2-magnitude quake rattles Southern California, then cluster of quakes follows
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A 5.2-magnitude earthquake shook Southern California on Monday, April 14, the U.S. Geological Survey reported.

The 8.3-mile-deep quake hit 2.4 miles south of Julian in San Diego County at 10:08 a.m., according to the USGS.

More than 35 people from as far away as Los Angeles and San Pedro reported feeling the tremor.

More quakes followed minutes after.

Users on X, formerly known as Twitter, were quick to comment on the tremor with some calling it a “huge earthquake.”

“I felt that one,” a user wrote.

“That was the biggest earthquake I’ve felt since moving to San Diego,” another user commented.

A number of users reported getting an emergency alert on their phone, then feeling the jolt.

“Wow, that’s the first time I’ve ever gotten an earthquake alert on my phone before it hit,” one user wrote.





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« Reply #2998 on: April 15, 2025, 04:26:13 AM »
Finally, someone standing up to him.

https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2025/4/15/harvard-denies-trump-demands/

Harvard Will Fight Trump’s Demands


By Dhruv T. Patel and Grace E. Yoon, Crimson Staff Writers
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Harvard will not comply with the Trump administration’s demands to dismantle its diversity programming and limit student protests in exchange for its federal funding, University President Alan M. Garber ’76 announced in a message to affiliates Monday afternoon.

“No government — regardless of which party is in power — should dictate what private universities can teach, whom they can admit and hire, and which areas of study and inquiry they can pursue,” he wrote.

The announcement comes two weeks after three federal agencies announced a review into roughly $9 billion in Harvard’s federal funding and days after the administration sent its initial demands, which included dismantling diversity programming, banning masks, and committing to “full cooperation” with the Department of Homeland Security.

And on Friday, the Trump administration delivered a longer and more focused set of demands than the ones they had shared two weeks earlier, asking Harvard to derecognize pro-Palestine student groups, audit its academic programs for viewpoint diversity, and expel students involved in an altercation at a 2023 pro-Palestine protest on the Harvard Business School campus.

It also asked Harvard to reform its admissions process for international students to screen for students “supportive of terrorism and anti-Semitism” — and immediately report international students to federal authorities if they break University conduct policies.

It called for “reducing the power held by faculty (whether tenured or untenured) and administrators more committed to activism than scholarship” and installing leaders committed to carrying out the administration’s demands.

And it asked the University to submit quarterly updates, beginning in June 2025, certifying its compliance.

Garber condemned the demands, calling them a political ploy disguised as an effort to address antisemitism on campus.

“It makes clear that the intention is not to work with us to address antisemitism in a cooperative and constructive manner,” he wrote. “Although some of the demands outlined by the government are aimed at combating antisemitism, the majority represent direct governmental regulation of the ‘intellectual conditions’ at Harvard.”

Attorneys representing Harvard sent a letter to officials from the three agencies on Monday.

“Neither Harvard nor any other private university can allow itself to be taken over by the federal government,” two attorneys from Harvard wrote in a letter to federal officials. “Accordingly, Harvard will not accept the government’s terms as an agreement in principle.”

Garber’s response on Monday follows an intense campaign from Harvard faculty and Cambridge residents to resist the Trump administration’s demands.

On Saturday, nearly 500 Harvard affiliates and Cambridge residents gathered in Harvard Square to urge Garber to resist the demands — a call he appeared to answer on Monday.

Garber’s Monday email marked the most forceful condemnation yet from any Harvard official against the Trump administration’s now months-long campaign against the University.

In the lead-up to the funding review, Garber had tried to quietly walk a middle road between federal pressure and resistance on campus. In March, Harvard ousted personnel at its Center for Middle Eastern Studies, suspended programming focused on Israel and Palestine at the Harvard Divinity School, and terminated its partnership with the oldest university in the West Bank — seemingly a preemptive measure to fend off scrutiny from Washington.

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And while the Trump administration acknowledged the moves as an “expression of commitment” to addressing antisemitism on campus, it was not enough to halt the $9 billion funding review or curb the flow of new demands.

Harvard’s stance marks a sharp break from the precedent set by Columbia University, which conceded to federal demands days after a $400 million cut to federal funding. Despite its compliance, the White House has yet to reinstate Columbia’s funding — a risk that Harvard seems to be ready to confront head-on rather than yield to.

Of the six Ivy League universities that have had their federal funding cut or challenged, Harvard is the only to outwardly reject the Trump administration’s demands — a move that some affiliates said was only fitting for the nation’s oldest and wealthiest university.

This is a developing story and will be updated.

—Staff writer Dhruv T. Patel can be reached at dhruv.patel@thecrimson.com. Follow him on X @dhruvtkpatel.

—Staff writer Grace E. Yoon can be reached at grace.yoon@thecrimson.com. Follow her on X @graceunkyoon.




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« Reply #2999 on: April 15, 2025, 11:15:34 AM »
All the universities will need to join together in this resistance. One of the problems is that federal funding tends to be general, while private donations (of which they have a lot) tends to be program targeted.
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