Topic: Buddhist sayings

[Ke-ke wan]

Guarded and unguarded.  Thoughts are things.

[erik]

Guarded and unguarded.  Thoughts are things.

Are you trying to challenge something?
Thoughts are things? What else are they?
Let's assume there are ungarded thoughts in your mind that bend you to enagage in poorly considered actions. Are there things in your brain?
I suggest you meditate on these quotes to absorb their original meaning rather than interpreting them in your terms.

[erik]

The reason for continuing to practice in order to arrive at a state without thought is that it provides the space to unlearn our neurotic relationship with thought. If we return to the idea that meditation isn't getting used to is, we can see that the process, or space of unlearning, is getting used to the referenceless quality of being.

[Ke-ke wan]

Are you trying to challenge something?
Thoughts are things? What else are they?
Let's assume there are ungarded thoughts in your mind that bend you to enagage in poorly considered actions. Are there things in your brain?
I suggest you meditate on these quotes to absorb their original meaning rather than interpreting them in your terms.

Not challenging anything.  Reading the quote, agreeing and adding a further perspective.
What I was saying:
Guarded and or unguarded thoughts can be harmful.

Thanks for suggesting what I should meditate on.   

[erik]

One of his students asked Buddha, "Are you the messiah?"
"No", answered Buddha.
"Then are you a healer?"
"No", Buddha replied.
"Then are you a teacher?" the student persisted.
"No, I am not a teacher."
"Then what are you?" asked the student, exasperated.
"I am awake", Buddha replied.

[erik]

Not challenging anything.  Reading the quote, agreeing and adding a further perspective.
What I was saying:
Guarded and or unguarded thoughts can be harmful.

Thanks for suggesting what I should meditate on.   

And what perspectives are in statements:
"Thoughts are things"
"Guarded thoughts can be harmful"
if I may enquire?

[erik]

Dhammapada has a different taste:

If you find no one to support you on the spiritual path, walk alone. There is no companionship with the immature.

[runningstream]

Like fermented yoghurt or old cheese

Lots of sayings for no mind

The Buddha ists

I stumbled upon the awakening Buddha

Perfect

Like the ap

Nargajuna found in the world of naga

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Nagajuna comings and goings

Mostly backwards them  words

Undoing words

No one on earth seemed to care

So I drank the world

[Jahn]

Are you trying to challenge something?
Thoughts are things? What else are they?

Well, not really. Things we can buy but thoughts not. Things are matter, while thoughts, or ideas is energy.
Energy is a forerunner to matter (and things in a way).

Example:
Today I am going to the grocery, and I start to make a list of all things that I shall buy (energy from my mind to the pen that write my list).
At home I have materialised my list (matter) and bring my groceries in.

It could also be that I think that playing Squash would be a good idea, so I call my Squash partner and we agree on a suitable time to play. When we start to play we manifest my thought of playing. Energy before matter right!

[erik]

Many do not realize that we here must die. For those who realize this, quarrels end.

[Jahn]

Many do not realize that we here must die. For those who realize this, quarrels end.

Nice, mental idea.That we may die, I mean.
Because that is exactly what we not do.
Death is only a transformation from one state to another, everyone in this business knows this.

[runningstream]

Buddhists seem to have given up
By giving up the ghost

[Ke-ke wan]

Well, not really. Things we can buy but thoughts not. Things are matter, while thoughts, or ideas is energy.
Energy is a forerunner to matter (and things in a way).

Example:
Today I am going to the grocery, and I start to make a list of all things that I shall buy (energy from my mind to the pen that write my list).
At home I have materialised my list (matter) and bring my groceries in.

It could also be that I think that playing Squash would be a good idea, so I call my Squash partner and we agree on a suitable time to play. When we start to play we manifest my thought of playing. Energy before matter right!

Yes! 
All of creation has begun first from a thought

[erik]

Nice, mental idea.That we may die, I mean.
Because that is exactly what we not do.
Death is only a transformation from one state to another, everyone in this business knows this.

That depends. If you do believe what Castaneda wrote, you'll be torn to shreds if you are short on energy.
Taoists concur with the above.
If you do believe what Buddhists say, you may not be back in human form any time soon - depending on what causes you have created.
Death is scary, isn't it?

[erik]

Buddhists seem to have given up
By giving up the ghost

How about a statement that Buddhists (and not even all of them) actually dare to look at things as they are?
We will die. No question about it. What happens to each of us after that is anybody's guess. Regardless of what one likes to fantasize about.