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Black Ice and Rain
« on: December 19, 2009, 08:54:21 AM »
Michael Donaghy (by Spoken Verse)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ju1qEisOhA&feature=sub
« Last Edit: December 19, 2009, 09:07:58 AM by Nichi »
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Re: Black Ice and Rain
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2009, 09:04:05 AM »
"Spoken Verse" lists his name as Tom O'Bedlam, but according to the Roger Ebert article (cited in "The Cinnamon Peeler"), he is someone else entirely -- Ebert wouldn't identify his suspicion.

Whoever he is, he's clearly someone seasoned, knowledgeable about literature, and mature.
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Re: Black Ice and Rain
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2009, 09:10:05 AM »
I have to admit, I cringed at the title, read it a bit. Its rather grusome of a read a bit. But I see black ice being like that.
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Re: Black Ice and Rain
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2009, 09:10:56 AM »
His comments about this video:

Somebody asked me to read this poem. I hadn't come across Michael Donaghy before. It's a personal dramatic monologue in the style of the confessional poets. It seems to me an imaginary internal conversation rather than a real external one. I feel that it's intrusive to comment on such poems because they are complete in themselves.

The poet himself was a great reciter of his own work (which is not true of every poet) and I'm following his manner, as best I can. You can hear him reciting other poems here:
http://www.poetryarchive.com/poetryar...

In searching for a suitable illustration I discovered that he actually had a mexican skeleton. Auguste Rodin's late 19th century sculpture of hands about to clasp could be reproduced in chocolate, I suppose. Jesus/Elvis pictures are not at all rare - but I didn't see reason to cause offence to anyone by reproducing them. Bad taste and religious kitsch are superficial themes and not important.

In the end I gave up trying to illustrate it - it's essentially aural.
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Re: Black Ice and Rain
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2009, 09:12:54 AM »
I have to admit, I cringed at the title, read it a bit. Its rather grusome of a read a bit. But I see black ice being like that.

It is a painful piece ... but rich.
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Re: Black Ice and Rain
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2009, 09:37:19 AM »
It is a painful piece ... but rich.

Yes it is, it shows he's rather deep. Interesting the religious themes he chooses.
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Re: Black Ice and Rain
« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2009, 06:15:14 PM »
He recites well - I almost recognise that voice.

Interesting poem.

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Re: Black Ice and Rain
« Reply #7 on: December 31, 2009, 02:45:40 AM »
He recites well - I almost recognise that voice.


Me too. It's a fun mystery. Is he someone who has an excellent voice who has never surfaced before, or is he someone who is well-known in another context, but who is now quietly enacting his love for poetry?
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