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Offline Endless~Knot

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Happiness
« on: September 11, 2009, 11:40:51 AM »
I cannot tell if what the world considers 'happiness' is happiness or not. All I know is that when I consider the way they go about attaining it, I see them carried away headlong, grim and obsessed, in the general onrush of the human herd, unable to stop themselves or to change their direction. All the while they claim to be just on the point of attaining happiness.

Chuang-tzu.

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Re: Happiness
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2009, 02:40:36 PM »
I remember the first time I ever went into a casino. I looked around and saw all these grim faced people sitting at tables or in front of slot machines, putting in coin after coin and not a smile on any ones face. They certainly didn't look 'happy'.

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Re: Happiness
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2009, 04:34:04 PM »
I remember the first time I ever went into a casino. I looked around and saw all these grim faced people sitting at tables or in front of slot machines, putting in coin after coin and not a smile on any ones face. They certainly didn't look 'happy'.

Good memory on that one, they were the herds. They were addicted to finding happiness in something impermanent, being denied the rush, the big win.

Some may have won but kept going and saw the numbers dwindling, but kept going to get 'back' what they'd lost.

Not a pleasant situation, but a fine example in humanity and the 'pursuit of happiness' in the wrong direction.

If life were one grand casino, most would recognize the house always wins...
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Re: Happiness
« Reply #3 on: September 11, 2009, 08:53:48 PM »
Tonight I was driving home, and a few nice cars passed me. Even the day before, some dude parked horizontally all crooked to purposely take up four spaces for his Mercedes. As I saw him pulling out, when I was getting into my car, which has a dent where a couple of people actually, hit me, I sighed. "That man has a big ego." Anyway, to my point.

Temporal happiness in worldly things is like when one gets a new car. You get the keys, it feels great, no matter even how high the payments. And its just you and the new 'baby' on the road, there is a nice high you can get with a new vehicle, even if its used. A dealer or even person selling it will usually have it cleaned up. But either way, it will provide a temporal happiness no matter what.

But eventually, it quickly fades and, the payments say, become reality. Or the high insurance. Or, the vehicle doesnt give that same 'thrill' anymore. It shows Buddha was right, once again, when it comes to the world such pursuits of happiness are trivial at best. They will never succeed in providing the type of happiness he spoke of. Its looking in the wrong direction. This is why its important that on the journey, in t he pursuit of happiness (nothing wrong with the pursuit), that one is grounded, and realizes that the majority of happiness comes from within, not without, and objects of the senses are merely fleeting mirages, as all is intrinsicitally empty to begin with. Its all impermanent. And it can be felt. Examine every 'thing' ever owned. What happiness attained eventually wore off, and didnt provide that happiness anymore? Think on these things.
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Re: Happiness
« Reply #4 on: September 12, 2009, 04:35:23 AM »
I see you are struggling with this whole gizbang Ms Knot.

Just remember that transformation never came from happiness.

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Re: Happiness
« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2009, 11:23:30 AM »
I see you are struggling with this whole gizbang Ms Knot.

Just remember that transformation never came from happiness.

Im not struggling with this at all. I know the natural state of existence is suffering and 'happiness' is temporary 'peaks' away from suffering which are fleeting and go away. That is why its a good idea to not get wrapped up in worldly happiness.
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Re: Happiness
« Reply #6 on: September 12, 2009, 02:18:45 PM »
Im not struggling with this at all. I know the natural state of existence is suffering and 'happiness' is temporary 'peaks' away from suffering which are fleeting and go away. That is why its a good idea to not get wrapped up in worldly happiness.

Is suffering the "natural" state of existence?  Or is suffering a mental state of being?

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Re: Happiness
« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2009, 02:33:28 PM »
Is suffering the "natural" state of existence?  Or is suffering a mental state of being?

Both. Due to the wheel of samsara.
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