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Listening and the importance
« on: September 20, 2009, 03:47:02 PM »
At my job I find the majority of people who call in do not listen very well. It is a repeat problem which as I take note, and im reiterating this as Ive said it before, listening, really listening, is a common problem.

The only thing I can think on this is that the human mind is lazy. It is also 'many minds' like in that movie, The Last Samurai (when the young boy tells Tom Cruise why he cant fight good, "Many minds" going on in his head). People have not one mind, but many minds. Is it a wonder some go schizophrenic? So their attention is in many different directions, to the point they cannot conduct the simplest task, be focused on one thing in the moment, because they are preoccupied with many other 'things' going on in their head.

This is something I actively work at freeing myself of since the herd does this regularly, walking around mindlessly like this. An observance I have noticed, my job even confirms. I ask a simple thing, to 'not include the zeros,' roughly 30 percent read the zeros off anyway. A simple one set of instruction I will give, and thirty percent will read off zeros anyway. Or when I ask certain things for verification, their minds will brainfart in other different directions. It amazes me. I could see if this involved something complex, a serious examination entailing sixty questions, but I ask only a few, and always, throughout my day, are folks who do not 'hear' what I am asking.

We were given ears for many reasons, and one of them was to listen and listen well. Not have our minds convoluted with so much shit we cannot handle the simplest tasks when someone is speaking to us. For that moment, someone is addressing us directly, it is not only polite, but wise, to 'tune out' other mental interference, and focus all attention on the other to what they are saying. Or else we cannot get the gist of what another is saying, at all. Or out of the prison of mind that it likes to keep ahold of us via its tyranny.
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Re: Listening and the importance
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2009, 07:49:59 PM »
I notice that,  too at my job.  I deal with hundreds of people in a day as I am sure you do as well. 

I find a lot of times  people already think they know what you are saying,  so they have their minds made up.  So they really aren't talking with you at all,  but kind of having conversations with themselves based on ideas and beliefs they have in their own minds.   Kinda weird, that.  But I guess people are weird.


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Re: Listening and the importance
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2009, 11:19:34 PM »
I notice that,  too at my job.  I deal with hundreds of people in a day as I am sure you do as well. 

I find a lot of times  people already think they know what you are saying,  so they have their minds made up.  So they really aren't talking with you at all,  but kind of having conversations with themselves based on ideas and beliefs they have in their own minds.   Kinda weird, that.  But I guess people are weird.



Cool avatar breezey :)

It does seem to be that way that folks dont know what they're saying. My mind even trails a bit in frustration myself when asking for info to be verified. I have to 'repeat myself' and ask the same question... again. Something which is a pet peeve of mine. I have been stalking myself on this, to try to have more patience with this quality of human nature. And also examining, do I do this myself possibly and its why it bothers me? I dont think I do, but if I do, Ill surely make sure to work on it!

But its a matter of focus. I typically do put my attention to what the other is saying, even if it includes body language, 'what are they saying to me?' Course, harder on a phone or online, but still, whatever medium I try to do my best. Its important to really listen, its also a way to develop awareness ourself, cause if we're not listening, we're not aware. If we're listening, then we're aware.

So it spooks me a bit folks, esp so many, who dont listen. Cause I know if they're not listening, they're lacking in awareness.
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Re: Listening and the importance
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2009, 05:23:51 AM »
Why don't you chicks choose avatars of old wrinkled women?

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Re: Listening and the importance
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2009, 10:39:55 AM »
Why don't you chicks choose avatars of old wrinkled women?

Cuz then we'd look like you ;)

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Re: Listening and the importance
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2009, 11:16:24 AM »
LOL You asked for that one, Michael!

Seriously, breezey and I arent old wrinkled women just yet. Our time is coming, and maybe then we will, but for now we'll just enjoy being wrinkle free while it lasts.

I havent even found a gray hair yet, much to my surprise. Im sure in this decade ill get one, but so far, no gray. No wrinkles either, but I dont have dry skin so that could be why too.
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Re: Listening and the importance
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2009, 04:49:02 AM »
The pursuit of youthful beauty, the reliance on youthful beauty, the complete acceptance of society's values: this is the downfall of women.

This is why women change after menopause, because they have become so embedded into the youth cult, that it takes decades for them to accept it when it has gone, and they hate it - they find excuses like having to do too much cleaning, too much care for wayward kids and old parents, too much of whatever - underneath it's all about being disenfranchised from their youth.

I say, begin now: embrace the beauty of old age before you find yourself invisible!

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Re: Listening and the importance
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2009, 11:25:33 AM »
The pursuit of youthful beauty, the reliance on youthful beauty, the complete acceptance of society's values: this is the downfall of women.

This is why women change after menopause, because they have become so embedded into the youth cult, that it takes decades for them to accept it when it has gone, and they hate it - they find excuses like having to do too much cleaning, too much care for wayward kids and old parents, too much of whatever - underneath it's all about being disenfranchised from their youth.

I say, begin now: embrace the beauty of old age before you find yourself invisible!

I already do. I dont care about society and about the mirror much. Im not afraid to age, its a natural process. Sure society is hung up on 'youth' and a lot of that comes from the media; however, that doesnt stir me much. Im more concerned with aging gracefully. Trying to take care of myself so that I can do that.

You really begin to think about those things when you turn forty. You have to. Im no longer construed as 'young' anymore, at least to myself.
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Re: Listening and the importance
« Reply #8 on: September 28, 2009, 07:52:38 PM »
This is for Mi-chael:  :D

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Re: Listening and the importance
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2009, 10:56:04 PM »
Beautiful Older Women


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Re: Listening and the importance
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2009, 02:18:18 PM »
So when you are listening to somebody, completely, attentively, then you are listening not only to the words, but also to the feeling of what is being conveyed, to the whole of it, not part of it. --Jiddu Krishnamurti

 
No wonder listening is an undervalued art. Research shows that we speak at a rate of about 125 words per minute, yet we have the capacity to listen to approximately 400 words per minute. So what are we doing with that extra space in our minds when someone else is talking? Are we really listening?

I have a friend who used to multi-task when we spoke on the phone. He would respond appropriately to what I was saying, but I could hear him shuffling papers or trying to quietly order food at the deli (yes, this actually happened). Even though he was following the conversation, I felt bereft as I was sharing my innermost thoughts and feelings. Fortunately, our friendship was more important than his to-do list, and now I happily get his full attention.

Listening is essential to fulfilling relationships. If you are experiencing challenging interactions or you want your connections to deepen, reflect on how you can improve your listening skills. The benefits? Consider the following:


People will feel be more drawn to you; they will like you more.

You will learn something new.

You will solve problems more effectively.

You will experience less loneliness and frustration.

You will feel happier and more relaxed.
Learn to listen well, and watch all your relationships thrive. Here's how.
Pay attention
Since our brains have the capacity to process 275 more words per minute than are actually spoken, we tend to fill up the void with extraneous thoughts. Notice how when someone is speaking, you are partially listening, while simultaneously planning the rest of your day, replaying a meeting that just occurred, or deciding what you will say next. Paying attention is the cardinal rule for good listening. Hear the words, and let their meaning in. If your mind wanders, simply re-focus your attention on the conversation.

Be receptive
If you show up with an agenda, you are not going to be available to fully hear what the other person is saying. There is no problem with having goals for an interaction, but let them go while the other person is speaking so you can hear what is being expressed. Balance your need for a given outcome with your desire to sustain a harmonious relationship.

Check your understanding
Make sure you can repeat what you just heard, and if you can't, ask for clarification. You might be surprised at how much you are missing. Most people are. When you think you've gotten it, you might say, “So what you are saying is....” to verify your understanding.

Be an explorer
Explorers are open and curious. They are inquisitive, without knowing what they will find. So what to do with all of that excess brain power? Focus on the speaker. Notice body language, tone of voice, and rate of speaking. Then look beneath the words to see what feelings and needs are being communicated. You never know what you might find.

Show interest
If you find yourself bored and distracted, reconnect with the interaction. Maintain eye contact, uncross your arms, and ask questions that take the conversation deeper. Find out what really matters to the person you are speaking with.

Be patient
As much as you may be tempted, don't speak over someone who is talking. When you feel the urge to step in, take a breath, let your agenda go, and continue to listen. If you need to move the conversation along, do so politely, as in, “Excuse me, I'm so sorry for interrupting, but ….” Likewise, be careful not to jump to conclusions or assume you know what hasn't yet been said. These are all signs that your inner explorer has fallen asleep. Revitalize your experience by paying attention to what is happening in the moment.

Get out of a rut
Have you ever had the same problematic conversation with someone over and over? Bring a fresh perspective to the relationship by redoubling your efforts to listen. Let go of your need to be right or your ideas about what the other person should be saying or doing, and hear them as if for the first time. This moves you from contraction and limit to possibility and potential simply by listening.

Effective listening develops empathy, which is the capacity for a deep understanding of another's experience. And isn't that what it takes for a relationship to thrive? It's as simple as paying attention.

http://www.dailygood.org/more.php?n=3872#

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Re: Listening and the importance
« Reply #11 on: October 12, 2009, 05:01:42 PM »
Thats a good find Breeze. Im still trying to come to terms with my annoyance on this issue at work. I have a stress ball with a happy face on it, I tend to squeeze a lot when taking calls, and I squeeze it more when people dont listen. Im trying to face why this irritates me so much. I find myself needing to deep breathe more as I recognize how little people 'tune in' to listen. You call in, you want info, but you dont get your focus on the other who is asking questions you need to provide an answer to.

Maybe in a past life I used to have to repeat myself alot, lol. I dont know what it is, but you should see the stress ball and how mushy it is :)
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Re: Listening and the importance
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2011, 09:56:03 AM »
Why don't you chicks choose avatars of old wrinkled women?

What an interesting question! The old crony - the wise lady - this is to aspired to, isn't it? The witch beyond the ego, the mythological spirit-being freed from the personal ego! I don't know Michael but I think you may unto something cool here. People seem to actually fear bodily aging and learning rather than revering it, now don't they? ps Fear is for fools.

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Re: Listening and the importance
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2011, 05:19:14 PM »
What an interesting question! The old crony - the wise lady - this is to aspired to, isn't it? The witch beyond the ego, the mythological spirit-being freed from the personal ego! I don't know Michael but I think you may unto something cool here. People seem to actually fear bodily aging and learning rather than revering it, now don't they? ps Fear is for fools.

No fear here.  I chose my avatar because it was breezy, like I was feelin when I chose the handle.  :0

But yes, wise old crone, I do aspire to be one day.

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Re: Listening and the importance
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2011, 05:58:18 PM »
No fear here.  I chose my avatar because it was breezy, like I was feelin when I chose the handle.  :0

But yes, wise old crone, I do aspire to be one day.

What you aspire to when you have conquered fear is the Beauty of you!