Topic: The Foreign Installation

[Endless~Knot]

I have no clue how could be relevant, but I thought I would share. So this man comes on chat at work today, he cant log into his account. I discover, he had no account to begin with. Once he became aware of his error he began saying. "God I am so ignorant!" LOL I told him it was a common mistake to think one has an account. Then he said "Can someone please make me smart?" I tried more to explain, its a common mistake, it happens. Then I asked if there was anything else I could do, he said, he was going back to college.

That chat made my day. 

[Endless~Knot]

I believe that Awareness can be measured in the capacity to be aware of something, A sort of over arching awareness that grants sub divisions of awareness if you want to. Me for example, I can be completely unaware of something and yet be able to talk about it blindly, and somehow get exactly what I need to hear. For example I had a recent situation that I posted on the other forum, and I rambled and discussed feelings. Knot showed up and completely gave me the answers or knowledge or awareness I needed. And it brought me profound clarity. I am not even able to know what it is I am asking until and answer arises.  I am almost able to compare levels of awareness if not the content of what I need but the intensity and am able to use that to see areas that I am lacking in.

Hey cherryarc glad I helped. Sometimes it helps because others can see things from a different angle and bring some issues into light. That's all I did.

[Endless~Knot]

Nikos I am more interested in others weighing in, than my answer.

Fyi, this is how things work for me, I ask questions and the answers come to me. So knowledge, energetically speaking comes from the questions that are asked, and it need not be another human that answers it.

DJ Tales of Power:

"The moths are the heralds, or, better yet, the guardians of eternity," don Juan said after the sound had stopped. "For some reason, or for no reason at all, they are the depositories of the gold dust of eternity."
The metaphor was foreign to me. I asked him to explain it.
"The moths carry a dust on their wings," he said. "A dark gold dust. That dust is the dust of knowledge."
His explanation had made the metaphor even more obscure. I vacillated [* vacillate- be undecided about something; waver between conflicting positions or courses] for a moment, trying to find the best way of wording my question. But he began to talk again.
"Knowledge is a most peculiar affair," he said, "especially for a warrior. Knowledge for a warrior is something that comes at once, engulfs him, and passes on."
"What does knowledge have to do with the dust on the wings of moths?" I asked after a long pause.
"Knowledge comes floating like specks of gold dust; the same dust that covers the wings of moths. So, for a warrior, knowledge is like taking a shower, or being rained on by specks of dark gold dust."

I once read enlightenment is in the question, not the answer.

That made me think. 

[runningstream]

Already dead , born again ?

[Endless~Knot]

Already dead , born again ?

I think there is a lot of truth in being born again.

Die to self, born to life.

[Michael]

I would not go so far as to say everything we have been taught - every influence - from other humans, is the foreign installation. Certainly it is a question as to what a human would look like without any human influence, but I don't think we would like the result, because a huge part of us is gregarious. Taking that out would be taking out a huge chunk of our natural essence.

Distinguishing which influence is installed to our detriment by a predator on the human species, and which is a healthy influence instilled into us by our human relationships, is what spiritual development is all about. There is no easy answer - it has to be seen from the viewpoint of learned growth through insight. Once we have grasped that so much of existence is about optics, then we can pick which optic leads to our preferred goal.

[Endless~Knot]

"A warrior on the true path does not need to prove the other is wrong."

I am not going to debate statements I made from a two year old post.

[Michael]

  But EK, No One went to so much trouble....

[Endless~Knot]

But EK, No One went to so much trouble....

Perhaps. but It will go no where. I do not see this as a debate forum though sure it has happened in here. I think it would be a waste of energy to defend my statements, esp ones I made two years ago. Just not in the mood for it, and I think my words can just stand on their own. All are free to agree or disagree with them. But I am not going to take this thing two more threads debating the validity of what I said. That would be exhausting. 

[Endless~Knot]

reminds me of a mistake I made years ago with a girl; I used to believe that I am a reincarnate of beings from the past and one of them was Bruce Lee, so I told this girl "I AM Bruce Lee". She Said : "really?" and I said "Yes really". What a mistake it was, to this day I don't know what are the consequences for it. I even tried to track her to tell her that I was wrong but it didn't help.

No nothing was a mistake here. You are free to disagree and I will take what you said into consideration. No big deal.

[Endless~Knot]

warriors strive for the truth - they are not dealing with ideas - truth exists as a conscious force of its own.

Oh I deal with ideas. I get an idea about something, then I can make it manifest into something concrete. Like today, I had the idea to write about beliefs in here, and did. Nothing wrong with ideas. They can be the start of something.

[Endless~Knot]

well then I bet you want to eat the cake and leave it whole too - how's that for an idea?

Wanting to have a cake and eat it to would be a waste of energy. I would have a slice and share the rest with others.

[Endless~Knot]

You should not be worried i am just fine.