Topic: Attacking self-reflection

[zig]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYP85p1JIdY

I can translate the few lyrics if you like, "There where I 've traveled" is called the song.

nick

[Michael]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYP85p1JIdY

I can translate the few lyrics if you like, "There where I 've traveled" is called the song.

nick

Nice piece of music, and I like the pan-flute effect, but it raises some odd connections - South American flavour, with (is that Greek?) language, about South East Asia.

[zig]

Greek band ,

Ethnic but mostly reggae.

[zig]

E.K., I see 'this' self reflection to the people around us, they seem to be trapped in it, but nevertheless they are human.

I think the majority lives *there..* but I also see many of us awakening in a fast pace, like it's an order from heaven, so to speak, whether one resists it or even fight ...it.

I can only think of it on collective terms... needless to repeat we have succeeded that awakening of us here.


*
P.S. Is it maybe what is termed as satori ?

[zig]

On a personal practice/level, I was reminded of the concept that what we see are the walls of our energy field.

[zig]

Here 's another one I like.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOH3PzYlI3w

(Not sure about the information in my previous post, maybe it's something I remember incorrectly.. The idea behind it is that the world is a description (as far as the teachings went). Source Castaneda)

[runningstream]

So
The path keeps changing
Evolving
Finding solutions
Even on lifetime line beyond the singular one
Even you Michael may say such things
As though they don't find ears when they do
As though your old ears were closed at point on your path
Meanwhile what needs to be effected is
If you have something to mention
Making sensible connection please do

[runningstream]

If you want to say attacking self reflection
I'd say your chasing a ghost I have seen this method
Endless backwards momentum

In self help new age circles
Personally I have preferred the evolutionary
Approach
As my bent is to effect everything to change

So i ask genuinely

What else is it

[runningstream]

And another thing
The reason I told you to don't be an asshole
When you said build your own road to hell
Is because I have been taken up
And seen 'it' heaven

So your words seemed to me misleading

There fore I question your knowledge

Its not a measuring contest

Do you know the story about Jesus

He came and tried to tell people
Who thought they knew and he was crucified as the story goes

Seems the world hasn't changed much in that respect
And who wants change ?

Present something new and see how many have new ears

I m he who hears

So what do you think you heard

[zig]

Hi

digging up an old thread, to give value let's say to the Toltec section and to pin something kind of complicated I believe to comprehend.

Michael said at some point, that "we chose our own hell"

...

When my chains of self reflection were cut, after some wondering by my side, in my inexperience, I "played" the hotshot, myself, asking my friend from a distance about heroin in a slang words.. 

Not to share the whole story, but after I went on trance for a long time, by a suddent move of mine in a middle of a dance, I started going downwards......

.....I found myself litterally in hell. (of unconsciousness).For a long time.

At some point, when I rejoined in the last morning (of the trip) with my friend, he told me he went through heroin in his night.

I have never tasted that drug, but that's another story.

I only finded relevance in "we choose our own hell after the cut of the self reflection chains.

(In a way that somehow after my revelation I formed the path)

Hey, this is something a little unsure of it's meaniing or lacking there off, first by me.  But anyhow, I engaged and shared it.

Thanks for reading I guess. 

-

[runningstream]

This is how it starts
They set the trap tell you your on the road to hell
Because they battle their self reflection in you
Then ask you to wear that vest for them
Then theres no coming back for you in their impatient minds

[runningstream]

Theyre the kind of assholes who get more miserable  enjoyment sharing miserable fart noises

Out of telling you what your doing or not
Rather
Than ever explaining what it is the hell they're talking about

Like a person who'd complain about a piece of rubbish on the ground for ten minutes
Instead of picking it up

Complete waste of energy everybodies
They're not interested

[runningstream]

The truth is
You did not create the world although you do
That's a rediculous notion

You are not responsible for every thing you come across as your own creation
Your responsible for your own footprints
Your reflection is the actions you take

This determines what is reflected back towards you
It is accumulative in an energetic sense

As your reflection becomes satisfactorily accepted
Its no longer a shadow

Closing the gap

When you close this distance you can say
Your one with the creator
Even for short time

All these emotions and casting reflections in
Going after self are secondary shadows
Grasping

They might work in some long term sense of some tradition I wouldn't know

In the short term they are not free
They cast more creations

Being aware that your creating reflections in the world
Or discounting that in your mind yet still acting
Does not undo this truth regardless of whether you
Acknowledge the in between of world
Laying
Between us and union

[zig]

'running https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfwN0X8YnWo for you 

Sorry Michael that I 've a little more active.

All turns to one or zero. 

......I guess. 

[runningstream]

 There's a lot of water running here
Rain comes
Slipping between the two views
Power
Humility : because when the mind body tastes power
When it tries to claim it , can elevate further sense of self , which blocks sense of sensing power
Adventure then :  curiosity leading and led from
Being , power leads to flight , flight is not from ordinary self ,
Merging views: power is dreamer finding dreamed ,
Curiosity , and humility and power flying together sustained currents ,
Truth : this one means movement towards , truth is the sustained current , truth is awareness ,

Truth is the line which does not go in circles ,
Truth can he witnessed and followed , truth is for the open ear ,
When you hold back the ordinary self for this sublime ,
This current can exceed known expecation or circle ,
Even silence can be truth , as its a honest witness ,

Inspiration is a heart witnessing ,acting being in truth ,

Did you ask the question for answer ?
Or to begin ?
both from same place
Within