Topic: A New page in Stockholm

[Jahn]

We got our first suicide bomber yesterday. First he blew up his own car and then he started to walk to the very center of the market streets when something probably went wrong and one minor bomb exploded and made a hole in his belly. He died without hurting anyone else.

Today he would have been 29 years old. He arrived to Sweden after the first Iraq war in the mid 1990's. He had studied naprapathy in the UK, was married there and had one child. He left them some year ago and until now he lived alone in Sweden close to his old family.


http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/12/11/sweden.explosion/index.html

"A Swedish news agency and police said they received e-mail threats against the Swedish people 10 minutes before the explosions, which killed one person and injured two others on Saturday.

The writer of the e-mail mentions the presence of Swedish troops in Afghanistan and a Swedish cartoonist who depicted the Prophet Mohammed, according to TT, a Swedish news wire.

The e-mails contained sound files featuring a person speaking in Swedish and Arabic, TT reported.

The sender referred to Swedish silence regarding the Afghanistan troops and the controversial cartoon by Lars Vilks that depicted Mohammed as having the body of a dog.

"Now your children, daughters and sisters will die like our brothers and sisters and children are dying," the e-mail states, according to TT."



 

[Jahn]

Since May I have attended several meetings in Stockholm. The meetings has been held at an office located at Olof Palmes Street (right it is the street where Palme was killed).

This street is located about 10 minutes walk from the central station. The car that exploded yesterday was parked at the end of the same block where I have had meetings with my group. Please check enclosed map.

Some experts guess that the suicide bombman were heading toward the central station. At the station about 500 000 people pass by during a normal day. This Saturday afternoon was highly frequented by people shopping for X-mas.

[Nichi]

Scary this event, Jahn.

[Jahn]

Scary this event, Jahn.

What is scary is the continous desinformation and hate that is thrown around in society.

This act from a man born in Iraq is only a tragedy for him and his relatives. Now there will come investigations for the police suspect that he had help from others to set up the whole thing.

[Builder]

It is time to walk around with eyes wide open and senses sharp. Like a fox in the forest.

[Jahn]

It is time to walk around with eyes wide open and senses sharp. Like a fox in the forest.

It is time to kill the beast. The Liar.

[Builder]

It is time to kill the beast. The Liar.

Where is the Liar? What weapon could possibly kill it?

[Jahn]

Where is the Liar? What weapon could possibly kill it?

The Liar is all around. Truth will kill it.

[Jahn]

The Liar is all around. Truth will kill it.

Like the WikiLeaks and now upcoming Open Leaks.

Everything will brought to the open. Like the pedophile scandal among the catholic priests all over the world.

Nothing can be hidden anymore.

[Michael]

It is a worry alright. There was also a bomb on the ghats at Varanasi, during the evening river pooja ceremony - 15 tourists were injured.

Seems we now live in such a world. A Pakistani woman I was talking to recently said that in Pakistan people now have learnt to live with regular bombings. She said on her last trip home, her brother said to always go out after a certain time, as bombings are less likely after that time; and if there has been a bombing, then it's safe to go out, as there is typically only one per day (although there are now often two or three within a few minutes).

Unfortunately this will give fillip to the right-wing political groups. And you can sympathise with them, up to a point, although that is not an answer either. Recently there was an article in the paper about Afghanis in England who send money home to support the Taliban, and even take holidays from their jobs to go and fight with the Taliban.
 

[Nichi]

Nothing can be hidden anymore.

Except for the extent of the death, illness, and destruction in the Gulf of Mexico, and the (successful) efforts to shut off the press to keep it out of the limelight. Either it is hidden from the view of the masses or the masses don't care... Which is another part of "truth": awareness is not enough. There has to be some real concern afoot.

[Builder]

These revelations have some potential to undermine the institution called 'state', but they will do nothing about the ghosts living in minds of individuals.

We can move either (1) in the direction of chaos where 'state' will be substituted with something a quite violent and amorphous or (2) 'state' will continue, and nobody would actually care about anything above and beyond personal well-being. The second model is called 'market-state', and you can see it evolving in the US, UK and a few other states.

[Jahn]

It is a worry alright. There was also a bomb on the ghats at Varanasi, during the evening river pooja ceremony - 15 tourists were injured.

Seems we now live in such a world. A Pakistani woman I was talking to recently said that in Pakistan people now have learnt to live with regular bombings. She said on her last trip home, her brother said to always go out after a certain time, as bombings are less likely after that time; and if there has been a bombing, then it's safe to go out, as there is typically only one per day (although there are now often two or three within a few minutes).

Unfortunately this will give fillip to the right-wing political groups. And you can sympathise with them, up to a point, although that is not an answer either. Recently there was an article in the paper about Afghanis in England who send money home to support the Taliban, and even take holidays from their jobs to go and fight with the Taliban.
 

HuMan has lost connection. Ego driven Religion and Politics is why. Power, greed and glory trapped the monkey.

An interesting time to be alive in - indeed.

[Jahn]

Except for the extent of the death, illness, and destruction in the Gulf of Mexico, and the (successful) efforts to shut off the press to keep it out of the limelight. Either it is hidden from the view of the masses or the masses don't care... Which is another part of "truth": awareness is not enough. There has to be some real concern afoot.

Fortunately, in the some what longer run a crude oil catastrophe is not much of a catastrophe. I could hold a lecture on this but the main message is that crude oil is natural and that it has quite little impact on the ecosystem. Especially in the South hemisphere. Exxon Valdez in Alaska was in that sense a greater ecological problem, and required more clean up efforts.

I do not marginalize the ecologic effects of the Mexican Gulf event but in the long run it will have no especially devastating effect. The warming of the water and that the water release carbonoxide is a greater problem right now. Species die for good because of the heating, but species die only temporarily beacuse of crude oill.

[Jahn]

Stockholm suicide bomber confronted by Luton mosque leaders

Taimour Abdulwahab al-Abdaly had been challenged by leaders of Luton Islamic centre over extremist views

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/dec/13/stockholm-suicide-bomber-luton-mosque

The suicide bomber who struck in Stockholm on Saturday stormed out of a British mosque where he worshipped after being confronted over his extremism, it emerged today


Taimour al-Abdaly, the Stockholm suicide bombings suspect, stormed out of a Luton mosque after leaders expressed concern about his radical views.

Taimour Abdulwahab al-Abdaly, who set off a car bomb in the Swedish capital before killing himself with a second device strapped to his body, attended the Luton Islamic centre where the mosque's leaders expressed concern about his views.

Abdaly was a student at the University of Bedfordshire in Luton between 2001 and 2004 and continued to live in the town after graduating. Qadeer Baksh, chairman of Luton Islamic centre, said Abdaly showed up at the mosque during Ramadan in 2006 or 2007 and made an instant impression with his "very bubbly character" but they soon clashed over his views.

"We were challenging his philosophical attitude to jihad," said Baksh. "He got so angry that he left. He was just supporting and propagating these incorrect foundations [of Islam], so I stepped in."

He said Abdaly believed scholars of Islam were "in the pocket of the government" and proposed a "physical jihad".

Baksh said he thought he had talked Abdaly round to a more moderate position but the Iraqi-born Swede then came back with more arguments. "I had no idea it would escalate to where it escalated," said Abdaly. "I thought that when he stormed off he was just angry at me. I heard afterwards that he was criticising the mosque in general and me in particular at the university. He said we were working for the British government and that we were in the pocket of Saudi Arabia. He was trying to defame our honour."

Despite the clashes, Baksh said it was not for him to report Abdaly to the police or security services. "It's the police's job, the intelligence service's job to follow these people up, not ours," he said. "You can't just inform on any Muslim having extreme views. In the past many Muslims have had extreme views but have become good balance Muslims."

The Islamic centre's secretary, Farasat Latif, said if they feared a person could be a potential tefforist "any Muslim in his right mind" would report him.

Police continued to search a terraced house in Luton today as part of the investigation. Abdaly's wife and three children reportedly live in Luton, and neighbours said they last saw him two and a half weeks ago.

Police obtained access to the property yesterday with a warrant issued under the Terrorism Act 2000. Whitehall officials have confirmed the bomber's identity; Swedish police say they are 98% certain Abdaly was the culprit.

The Swedish newspaper Expressen reported that the country's security service believe the bomb went off accidentally and Abdaly had planned to detonate three devices, including one at the main railway station and another at a large department store. It said he had planned to blow up his car but also had 12 pipe bombs strapped to his body, and a bomb in a rucksack.

Abdaly has been hailed as a martyr on the Islamist website al-Hanin. A photomontage on the site suggests he was a member of an al-Qaida-linked organisation, the Islamic State of Iraq.

In 2007, the group's leader, Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, called for reprisals in Sweden for the cartoons of the prophet Muhammad by the Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks. In an email apparently written by Abdaly and sent to Swedish the news agency TT shortly before the explosions he condemned Sweden's' "stupid support for the pig Vilks".

Abdaly's father was quoted by Expressen as saying he had lost contact with his son. "He did not say where he was going," he told the newspaper. "The whole family is in shock, and wants to find out what happened."

Tahir Hussain, 33, a taxi driver who lives near to the Luton house being searched, said he used to exchange greetings with Abdaly. "He had only been here about a year. I used to chat to him a bit: say good morning, good afternoon," said Hussain. "He seemed like a very nice person. I never thought he'd be like this."

He said he would see Abdaly with his three children in the garden. "His wife used to cover her face, and he wore a djellaba," Hussain said. "You could tell he was religious."

Faisal Ahmed, 24, a restauranteur who lives on the same street as Abdaly, said: "The [Abdaly] family is very gentle; the news is a big shock. I hope it's not true, it's really unbelievable."