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As the Corvid Turns
« on: April 03, 2011, 03:34:17 AM »
Ravens kiss and make up after a brawl

14:57 01 April 2011 by Michael Marshall
New Scientist

Angry ravens might kick and chase each other, but if they are close allies they make up afterwards.

Plenty of primates and other mammals reconcile after a conflict, but previously no birds were known to do so, says Orlaith Fraser of the University of Vienna in Austria.

Monitoring a group of seven captive ravens (Corvus corax), Fraser and colleague Thomas Bugnyar found that pairs of birds were likely to be more friendly to each other if they had fought each other in the previous 10 minutes.



"It wasn't just standard friendly behaviour," Fraser says. Rather the ravens sat touching each other, and sometimes touched their beaks together or preened each other. Ravens are not tactile like primates, so sitting in contact is a strong social signal.
Unusual behaviour

"That's very good evidence for reconciliation," says Filippo Aureli of Liverpool John Moores University in the UK. Comparing animals' typical behaviour with the behaviour they display in the minutes immediately after a fight is a "well-established method" to look for such behaviour, he adds.

Ravens that had squabbled were more likely to reconcile if they were allies. "These are valuable partners who share food and support each other in fights," says Fraser.

"Many animals have mechanisms for maintaining valuable relationships," says Phyllis Lee of the University of Stirling, UK. Social animals that can recognise other individuals and form long-term relationships with them are most likely to be able to reconcile, she says.

Fraser and Bugnyar previously showed that ravens sometimes console group members who have lost a fight.


Journal reference: PLoS One, DOI: 10.1371/journal.pone.0018118
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Re: As the Corvid Turns
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2011, 03:16:06 AM »
Angry Crows Attack Police Officers In Everett, Washington

06/10/11 01:18 PM ET   AP

EVERETT, Wash. -- Police in Everett, Wash., have found themselves in a flap with some unusual suspects: an angry flock of birds.

Crows have been attacking officers in the parking lot of the Everett Police Department's north precinct station. They've been swooping down and dive-bombing the officers as they walk to and from their cars.

Lt. Bob Johns says he recently was flanked by the aggressive birds and "got zinged." He says, "They're like velociraptors."

The Daily Herald reports one officer tried to use his siren to scare away the crows. The birds responded by decorating his car with droppings.

State Fish and Wildlife Department biologist Ruth Milner says the birds are simply protecting baby crows that have been kicked out of the nest and are learning to fly. She says adult crows are quite protective of their young.

City spokeswoman Kate Reardon says police and other city employees who have been attacked have agreed to let the crows be and wait out the aggression.
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Re: As the Corvid Turns
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2011, 03:18:18 AM »
I'm glad the humans agreed on tolerance!
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Re: As the Corvid Turns
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2011, 03:23:59 AM »
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Re: As the Corvid Turns
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2011, 03:38:14 AM »
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The Indian crow (Mark Twain)
« Reply #5 on: July 04, 2011, 11:49:11 AM »
"Some natives - I don't remember how many - went into my bedroom, now, and put things to rights and arranged the mosquito-bar, and I went to bed to nurse my cough. It was about nine in the evening. What a state of things! For three hours the yelling and shouting of natives in the hall continued, along with the velvety patter of their swift bare feet - what a racket it was! They were yelling orders and messages down three flights. Why, in the matter of noise it amounted to a riot, an insurrection, a revolution. And then there were other noises mixed up with these and at intervals tremendously accenting them - roofs falling in, I judged, windows smashing, persons being murdered, crows squawking, and deriding, and cursing, canaries screeching, monkeys jabbering, macaws blaspheming, and every now and then fiendish bursts of laughter and explosions of dynamite. By midnight I had suffered all the different kinds of shocks there are, and knew that I could never more be disturbed by them, either isolated or in combination. Then came peace - stillness deep and solemn and lasted till five.

Then it all broke loose again. And who re-started it? The Bird of Birds the Indian crow. I came to know him well, by and by, and be infatuated with him. I suppose he is the hardest lot that wears feathers. Yes, and the cheerfulest, and the best satisfied with himself. He never arrived at what he is by any careless process, or any sudden one; he is a work of art, and "art is long"; he is the product of immemorial ages, and of deep calculation; one can't make a bird like that in a day. He has been reincarnated more times than Shiva; and he has kept a sample of each incarnation, and fused it into his constitution. In the course of his evolutionary promotions, his sublime march toward ultimate perfection, he has been a gambler, a low comedian, a dissolute priest, a fussy woman, a blackguard, a scoffer, a liar, a thief, a spy, an informer, a trading politician, a swindler, a professional hypocrite, a patriot for cash, a reformer, a lecturer, a lawyer, a conspirator, a rebel, a royalist, a democrat, a practicer and propagator of irreverence, a meddler, an intruder, a busybody, an infidel, and a wallower in sin for the mere love of it. The strange result, the incredible result, of this patient accumulation of all damnable traits is, that be does not know what care is, he does not know what sorrow is, he does not know what remorse is, his life is one long thundering ecstasy of happiness, and he will go to his death untroubled, knowing that he will soon turn up again as an author or something, and be even more intolerably capable and comfortable than ever he was before.

In his straddling wide forward-step, and his springy side-wise series of hops, and his impudent air, and his cunning way of canting his head to one side upon occasion, he reminds one of the American blackbird. But the sharp resemblances stop there. He is much bigger than the blackbird; and he lacks the blackbird's trim and slender and beautiful build and shapely beak; and of course his sober garb of gray and rusty black is a poor and humble thing compared with the splendid lustre of the blackbird's metallic sables and shifting and flashing bronze glories. The blackbird is a perfect gentleman, in deportment and attire, and is not noisy, I believe, except when holding religious services and political conventions in a tree; but this Indian sham Quaker is just a rowdy, and is always noisy when awake - always chaffing, scolding, scoffing, laughing, ripping, and cursing, and carrying on about something or other. I never saw such a bird for delivering opinions. Nothing escapes him; he notices everything that happens, and brings out his opinion about it, particularly if it is a matter that is none of his business. And it is never a mild opinion, but always violent - violent and profane - the presence of ladies does not affect him. His opinions are not the outcome of reflection, for he never thinks about anything, but heaves out the opinion that is on top in his mind, and which is often an opinion about some quite different thing and does not fit the case. But that is his way; his main idea is to get out an opinion, and if he stopped to think he would lose chances.

I suppose he has no enemies among men. The whites and Mohammedans never seemed to molest him; and the Hindoos, because of their religion, never take the life of any creature, but spare even the snakes and tigers and fleas and rats. If I sat on one end of the balcony, the crows would gather on the railing at the other end and talk about me; and edge closer, little by little, till I could almost reach them; and they would sit there, in the most unabashed way, and talk about my clothes, and my hair, and my complexion, and probable character and vocation and politics, and how I came to be in India, and what I had been doing, and how many days I had got for it, and how I had happened to go unhanged so long, and when would it probably come off, and might there be more of my sort where I came from, and when would they be hanged, - and so on, and so on, until I could not longer endure the embarrassment of it; then I would shoo them away, and they would circle around in the air a little while, laughing and deriding and mocking, and presently settle on the rail and do it all over again.

They were very sociable when there was anything to eat - oppressively so. With a little encouragement they would come in and light on the table and help me eat my breakfast; and once when I was in the other room and they found themselves alone, they carried off everything they could lift; and they were particular to choose things which they could make no use of after they got them. In India their number is beyond estimate, and their noise is in proportion. I suppose they cost the country more than the government does; yet that is not a light matter. Still, they pay; their company pays; it would sadden the land to take their cheerful voice out of it. "

[Following the Equator, by Mark Twain]

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Re: The Indian crow (Mark Twain)
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2011, 01:14:31 PM »
/...../
I suppose he has no enemies among men. The whites and Mohammedans never seemed to molest him; and the Hindoos, because of their religion, never take the life of any creature, but spare even the snakes and tigers and fleas and rats. If I sat on one end of the balcony, the crows would gather on the railing at the other end and talk about me; and edge closer, little by little, till I could almost reach them; and they would sit there, in the most unabashed way, and talk about my clothes, and my hair, and my complexion, and probable character and vocation and politics, and how I came to be in India, and what I had been doing, and how many days I had got for it, and how I had happened to go unhanged so long, and when would it probably come off, and might there be more of my sort where I came from, and when would they be hanged, - and so on, and so on, until I could not longer endure the embarrassment of it; then I would shoo them away, and they would circle around in the air a little while, laughing and deriding and mocking, and presently settle on the rail and do it all over again.

/...../

[Following the Equator, by Mark Twain]

Wonderful!   :D :D :D
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Re: The Indian crow (Mark Twain)
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2011, 05:15:34 PM »
In the course of his evolutionary promotions, his sublime march toward ultimate perfection, he has been a gambler, a low comedian, a dissolute priest, a fussy woman, a blackguard, a scoffer, a liar, a thief, a spy, an informer, a trading politician, a swindler, a professional hypocrite, a patriot for cash, a reformer, a lecturer, a lawyer, a conspirator, a rebel, a royalist, a democrat, a practicer and propagator of irreverence, a meddler, an intruder, a busybody, an infidel, and a wallower in sin for the mere love of it

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Re: As the Corvid Turns
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2011, 11:37:44 PM »
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Re: As the Corvid Turns
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2011, 06:12:10 AM »
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I never saw such a bird for delivering opinions.

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Raven allows himself to be healed
« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2013, 07:27:26 PM »
Wish I knew the back-story on this. The raven appears to know he was going to get assistance.  :)

(Removing porcupine quills...)

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1392209197663308&set=vb.136336876521150&type=2&theater
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Re: As the Corvid Turns
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2014, 05:20:12 AM »
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and here is a must-see longer version:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=1019331543732

(In the second one, you can see/hear the crow getting the guitar out of tune.)

Blurb on the video:
Curt Stager playing "Blackbird" with special guest, Birdie, our favorite crow. Curt is a science professor at Paul Smith's College and author of "Deep Future: The Next 100,000 Years of Life on Earth" and "Your Atomic Self." (www.curtstager.com) And Birdie is the best crow in the UNIVERSE! — with Curt Stager at Paul Smith's College, NY.
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Wing Surfer
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2015, 12:14:17 AM »
<span data-s9e-mediaembed="youtube" style="display:inline-block;width:100%;max-width:640px"><span style="display:block;overflow:hidden;position:relative;padding-bottom:56.25%"><iframe allowfullscreen="" loading="lazy" scrolling="no" style="background:url(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uoLYj-ibW18/hqdefault.jpg) 50% 50% / cover;border:0;height:100%;left:0;position:absolute;width:100%" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/uoLYj-ibW18"></iframe></span></span><br /><a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/uoLYj-ibW18" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/uoLYj-ibW18</a>


http://youtu.be/uoLYj-ibW18

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Re: As the Corvid Turns
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2015, 12:28:56 AM »
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Re: As the Corvid Turns
« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2015, 04:20:21 AM »
:)

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