Topic: Greens

[Nichi]

Another great chart...



Puts me in the mood for a salad!

[Nick]

These charts are so vague and linear. Even if you don't buy into the underlying transhuman philosophy you should read the book: http://www.fantastic-voyage.net/ by Ray Kurzweil

It's loaded with useful information, there's a whole chapter on water, he cites all his sources so even if you don't think science has all the answers at least you can check how they drew their conclusions.

Watch this:


http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/ben_goldacre_battling_bad_science.html

[Michael]

Watch this:


http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/ben_goldacre_battling_bad_science.html

That was good.

[Nichi]

These charts are so vague and linear. Even if you don't buy into the underlying transhuman philosophy you should read the book: http://www.fantastic-voyage.net/ by Ray Kurzweil

It's loaded with useful information, there's a whole chapter on water, he cites all his sources so even if you don't think science has all the answers at least you can check how they drew their conclusions.

Watch this:


http://www.ted.com/talks/lang/en/ben_goldacre_battling_bad_science.html

Hunh, I never knew any of this was in question. The info on the chart is the accepted folklore about these veggies, but I'm open to the possibility that the lore is wrong. Thanks for the info.

[Michael]

I've never heard of arugula, but I do love green leafy vegs. I gather they are not commonly eaten.

I heard the other day that a uni team in Aust did a study on users of fast food. Based on the assumption that most fast food advertising is directed at the Working Class market. But they discovered the biggest users of fast food are young Middle Class men who live alone and can't be bothered with cooking.

The latest guy I heard on the radio talking about healthy food - some American nutritionist - simply advised to avoid all food that comes out of a factory. Which is why I like to pick my greens from the garden.

[Nichi]

Arugula is de-lic-ious!  Once you start eating it, you can't get enough: it has a mild spiciness, and some people use it for pestos.

[Michael]

Arugula is de-lic-ious!  Once you start eating it, you can't get enough: it has a mild spiciness, and some people use it for pestos.

Julie probably knows it, and I probably just eat it without knowing it's name - I'll check with her.

[Nick]

Hunh, I never knew any of this was in question.

I say, question almost everything, esp. what isn't 'in' question.

The info on the chart is the accepted folklore about these veggies, but I'm open to the possibility that the lore is wrong. Thanks for the info.

Who's accept folklore is it? Why do they accept this folklore? It probably isn't wrong, but the chart doesn't tell you why it's right. It's a good start but we need more.

Example of why it's right, from:  

http://www.jointhereboot.com/cruciferous-vegetables-are-anti-cancer-foods/

"All vegetables contain protective micronutrients and phytochemicals, but cruciferous vegetables are unique – they contain compounds called glucosinolates which are responsible for their pungent or bitter flavors. When cell walls are broken by blending or chopping, a chemical reaction occurs that converts glucosinolates to isothiocyanates (ITCs) – compounds with proven anti-cancer activities. The many ITCs work synergistically to remove carcinogens, kill cancer cells, and prevent tumors from growing.1 Some ITC can even help the body excrete estrogen and other hormones, reducing the risk for hormonal cancers."

I also always try to give a clue about how I find my information, not big on memorizing, but knowing how to find information, that's key:

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=Arugala+cancer&btnG=&hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C39

Now this tells me something I can make use of for future reference. I.e. break the cell walls of these veggies by blending or chopping to create the anti-cancer compound. I would also ask myself do other cooking processes break the cell walls, can overheating said veggie cause lose of these benefits?

 Useful knowledge since cancer runs in my fiancé's family, and she has a thyroid problem so I wouldn't be surprised if she had an increased risk for hormonal cancers. 

Here is a great recipe I made the other week: http://www.101cookbooks.com/archives/green-soup-with-ginger-recipe.html

I added about an eighth of a teaspoon curry, didn't measure it but also added grated orange peel, collard greens and curly leave kale. Yummy yum!