Topic: Jahn's JukeBox

[Michael]

I was discussing this matter of not knowing much about Prince, or having heard his Purple song, with a group of friends at a lunch here last Sunday. The only person in the group who knew anything about Prince was a woman who was the youngest of us all - in her early fifties. For the rest of us, listening  to pop music stopped in the 70s - everything after that all sounded contrived. As one person said, it all went straight over her head (mind you, she goes back to Dave Brubeck).

One guy said he felt it all started changing when disco music came in.

[Nichi]

Well, I was in a community of musicians in the 70's, and they would certainly agree with your assessment. And it's true to some extent: there were very few innovators after the 70's in rock and pop music. But, especially since I was disengaging from my 70's friends in the 80's, I found there to be whole other worlds of music, and experienced the condemnation of the 70's community as snobbery.

What was especially repugnant, it seemed, to the 70's group was music with a beat, with rhythmic emphasis - with African-American/African influence. True, some of that was embodied in "disco", but there was more than "disco" going on. I recall a comment you made once that that rhythmic "soul music" was the perfect inroad to world music. 

At any rate, if my speculation is accurate, then indeed Prince wouldn't have held any interest to the 70's-elitists.

[Nichi]

My personal opinion: what ruined the commercial music world was the robotic "techno"-sound, which led to sampling and computer programs through which, hypothetically, anyone can sit down at their pc with the right app and "compose" music.

[Jahn]

Do we really know that he was gay, though? Or even bi?

He took a very conservative stance on the issue in the last 10 years:
http://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2016/04/prince-gay-homophobia-conservative-liberal-progress/479502/

Well, Prince was diagnosed with HIV in the early 1990's. The risk to get that is skyway higher for you know who.
In some kind of religious context, he was told to not use medicine against that disease.
At the end of his life he was down on 45 kilos (100 lb, perhaps less), he couldn't eat, without throwing it out, and he had probably a severe drug addiction with morphine derivates against pain (kind of same addiction as Michael Jackson). All this together, with a sleep disorder the last week of his life made him an easy prey for Death.

[Nichi]

Well, Prince was diagnosed with HIV in the early 1990's. The risk to get that is skyway higher for you know who.
In some kind of religious context, he was told to not use medicine against that disease.
At the end of his life he was down on 45 kilos (100 lb, perhaps less), he couldn't eat, without throwing it out, and he had probably a severe drug addiction with morphine derivates against pain (kind of same addiction as Michael Jackson). All this together, with a sleep disorder the last week of his life made him an easy prey for Death.

Well, maybe he was active like that in his heyday - I don't know. Certainly the chances were high that he was promiscuous, at any rate.

I tend to block out celebrity gossip - drives Larry crazy, who loves it. So this aspect is news to me. A Google search shows that he was told he had AIDS a few weeks ago. A horrible way to go. 

[Nichi]

But he certainly could have caught his HIV from a female. He was surrounded by females - beautiful, sexy females. He was married at least twice to females. He was pro-female, probably moreso than any other 'famous' rock star. He featured them in his acts, he had female vocalists (and not just back-up vocalists) and musicians in his groups, he played their music.

@Michael - per your request a few posts back, I can't find a yt clip of Prince doing anything amazing on the guitar other than his 'breakaway leads'. There are a couple of clips where he is accompanying himself on the acoustic - nothing special there. Since I've been looking out for such a clip to fit your request, though, I've observed something interesting. He almost never plays anything to its completion - be it on guitar or piano. Someone invariably seems to take over. But this could be explained by the fact that he was a showman first.

[Jahn]

But he certainly could have caught his HIV from a female. He was surrounded by females - beautiful, sexy females. He was married at least twice to females.

Here we come in to details, and how people have sex.
If the woman have HIV and the couple have ordinary vaginal sex, it is a low probability for HIV. As the provided link says the risk increases between 8 to 18 times when there is anal sex together with a partner with HIV, regardless of gender.

Please, read the statistical probabilities here

http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv

[Nichi]

Here we come in to details, and how people have sex.
If the woman have HIV and the couple have ordinary vaginal sex, it is a low probability for HIV. As the provided link says the risk increases between 8 to 18 times when there is anal sex together with a partner with HIV, regardless of gender.

Please, read the statistical probabilities here

http://www.catie.ca/en/pif/summer-2012/putting-number-it-risk-exposure-hiv

I'm a believer. Remember, though, that women have anal sex too. Remind me to tell you of a story I was told about what teenagers do on the bus in Istanbul. Ok, so he likely engaged in anal sex with someone who had HIV, if any of it is true. There are murmurings that the AIDS story is a cover-up... I suppose time will tell.

[Jahn]

I'm a believer. Remember, though, that women have anal sex too. Remind me to tell you of a story I was told about what teenagers do on the bus in Istanbul. Ok, so he likely engaged in anal sex with someone who had HIV, if any of it is true. There are murmurings that the AIDS story is a cover-up... I suppose time will tell.

Of course, it is all rumours. But it is quite clear that he was flipping out on his medicine, some kind of mismatch  between seditative and painkillers. Some close sources said that he hadn't sleep for five days. We got this acute  Aircraft incident just some days before his death and so on.

He couldn't eat, threw up all that he swallowed etc. Dear Prince was very sick before he died, of that I am sure.

[Jahn]

Not that expected, Ukraine won the 2016 Eurovision Contest (where Australia got a top position).

LIVE - Jamala - 1944 (Ukraine) at the Grand Final of the 2016 Eurovision Song Contest

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-rnM-MwRHY

The video is followed by the Australian contribution to the Contest, which is a more traditional song within these Contests.

LIVE - Dami Im - Sound Of Silence (Australia) at the Grand Final


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ymFX91HwM0

Some real power there in her performance!

[Jahn]

Frans (17 år) - If I were Sorry


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GTdelXRlA4

A copy of this song, Matt Simons - Catch & Release (Deepend remix) - Official Video


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rip0bX2qrIs

Compare again


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4emC0VDQGz8

[Jahn]

JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE | CAN'T STOP THE FEELING (Dance, Dance, Dance) ESC 2016 in Stockholm, May 2016.
 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-oQborxIgU

[Jahn]

Justin Timberlake - What Goes Around...Comes Around (Short Version)

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC8qPpnD0uE

[Ke-ke wan]

Justin Timberlake - What Goes Around...Comes Around (Short Version)

 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IC8qPpnD0uE

This is my ringtone at the moment.

[Michael]

While he likened analogue technology to “throwing an amp into the spirit of man,” he grimaced as he mimicked a techno beat. “It’s like: woah, you know! Why don’t I just die now.”

“Things are getting too wired up. In my lifetime, I’ve seen the lakes and rivers get foul to the point where you can’t drink the water and then you can’t drink it out of the tap and you finally have to buy it. Everything’s become a business.

“If everyone could just calm the flower down a little bit that would be good. There’s a stimulation today that’s really intense.”