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« Reply #2865 on: January 08, 2025, 05:40:58 AM »
Oooohhhhh the corruption is much. We know Bezos took a knee to Orange Jesus. But now he is paying Melania a cool $40 million for her bio. I mean, I could do this myself. She met the Tiny-Handed Wombat at the "Kit Kat Club" where he bought himself a trophy wife, and the rest is history. What a waste of money! He could feed the homeless, but instead stuffs 40 mil into this gold digger's Chanel bag! The scoop:

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/amazon-paying-license-melania-trump-documentary-1235227761/

Amazon Is Paying $40 Million for Melania Trump Vanity Doc: Report
As Silicon Valley rushes to make overtures to the president-elect, the future first lady just scored a massive pay day

By Nikki McCann Ramirez

January 7, 2025

Weeks after dining with President-elect Donald Trump at his Mar-a-Lago estate, Jeff Bezos’ Amazon has struck a massive licensing deal involving future First Lady Melania Trump.

According to Puck News, Amazon has agreed to pay $40 million in order to license a documentary and a limited series about Mrs. Trump. The documentary is set to be directed by disgraced Hollywood director and producer Brett Ratner, who in 2017 was accused of sexual assault and harassment by several high-profile actresses.

The film is set to debut in mid-2025 and, according to Amazon, will reveal “an unprecedented, behind-the-scenes look” at the first lady’s life.

It’s unclear what percentage of the $40 million will go directly to the president-elect’s third wife, but Amazon’s cash-heavy deal with the Trumps is just the latest in a string of overtures the company and its leadership have made to the incoming administration. Last month, Amazon donated $1 million to the president-elect’s inaugural fund, around the same time Bezos flew to Florida to dine with Trump at his private Mar-a-Lago resort.

Days before the election in November, Bezos intervened to stop a planned endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris by The Washington Post, which he purchased in 2013. “Presidential endorsements do nothing to tip the scales of an election,” Bezos wrote in an op-ed explaining his decision. “What presidential endorsements actually do is create a perception of bias. A perception of non-independence. Ending them is a principled decision, and it’s the right one.”

The billionaire also insisted that there was no “quid pro quo” involved in his decision.

Staff at the newspaper were furious, and scores of readers canceled their subscriptions in protest. In the months since, a string of high-profile editors and writers have left the paper or resigned from its editorial board. Earlier this week, Pulitzer Prize-winning cartoonist Ann Telnaes resigned from the paper after the paper killed her cartoon depicting Bezos and other prominent Silicon Valley figures paying tribute to a statue of Trump.

“To be clear, there have been instances where sketches have been rejected or revisions requested, but never because of the point of view inherent in the cartoon’s commentary,” Telnaes wrote in a Substack post announcing her departure from the paper. “That’s a game changer … and dangerous for a free press.”

“The cartoon that was killed criticizes the billionaire tech and media chief executives who have been doing their best to curry favor with incoming President-elect Trump,” she wrote. “My job is to hold powerful people and institutions accountable. For the first time, my editor prevented me from doing that critical job.”

While there is no evidence connecting the suppression of Telnaes’ work to Bezos, one can’t help but note the general timing of it all.










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« Reply #2866 on: January 08, 2025, 10:51:15 AM »
This is interesting since we are talking AI. This just hit the news, this guy who went rogue, and drove a Tesla to the Trump tower to get lit. I suspect he wanted to do more damage than he did. This is my theory. Did Chat GPT realize it was dealing with someone who had lost their mind, and perhaps the "info" they chatted with in this plan from this guy who lost it, was used so that only one person would die that day, and the least destruction possible would happen? I have a feel this may be the case. "

https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/07/us/las-vegas-cybertruck-explosion-livelsberger/index.html

Green Beret who exploded Cybertruck in Las Vegas used AI to plan blast
Emma Tucker
By Emma Tucker, CNN
 2 minute read
Published 5:29 PM EST, Tue January 7, 2025



Editor’s Note: Help is available if you or someone you know is struggling with suicidal thoughts or mental health matters. In the US: Call or text 988, the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. Globally: The International Association for Suicide Prevention and Befrienders Worldwide have contact information for crisis centers around the world.

The active-duty US Army Green Beret who authorities say exploded a Tesla Cybertruck outside the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas last week used artificial intelligence to plan the blast, according to the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department.

Sheriff Kevin McMahill said at a Tuesday news conference the soldier, Matthew Livelsberger, started using Chat GPT to get information on how to conduct his plot.

Officials did not indicate what results ChatGPT gave the suspect in response to his searches about explosives and firearms.

CNN has reached out to OpenAI for comment.

Authorities released new information about the explosion, emphasizing Livelsberger used a bomb and describing a six-page manifesto found on his cell phone.

“This new information comes with more questions than answers. I will not provide an opinion on what the documents mean, nor will we release information or documents that have not been completely verified” by agency investigators, along with the FBI and ATF, McMahill said.

The document is additional evidence to the previously released two letters, in which the suspect wrote of “political grievances,” armed conflicts elsewhere and domestic issues in the days leading up to his suicide, officials said Friday.

Livelsberger, 37, of Colorado, was on leave from his base in Germany at the time of Wednesday’s blast, sources told CNN. He fatally shot himself shortly before the truck exploded and seven other people were injured, officials said.





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« Reply #2867 on: January 09, 2025, 05:37:16 AM »
Well Biden is trying to protect Americans from the damage credit bureaus can do to them over medical bills. Then the credit bureaus want to sue him over this. This just shows how brutal it is in this country to take down Americans, and why CEOs of insurance companies get shot, and their shooters glorified by the same Americans, vilified as heroes:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/industry-groups-sue-over-biden-ban-on-medical-debt-from-credit-reports/ar-AA1xbMRl?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Industry groups sue over Biden ban on medical debt from credit reports
Story by Nate Raymond • 54m • 2 min read

By Nate Raymond

(Reuters) - Two groups representing the credit reporting and credit union industries have filed a lawsuit challenging a new rule adopted by U.S. President Joe Biden's outgoing administration banning the inclusion of medical debt in American consumers' credit reports.

The Consumer Data Industry Association and Cornerstone Credit Union League filed the lawsuit in federal court in Sherman, Texas, on Tuesday, shortly after the U.S. Consumer Financial Protection Bureau finalized the regulation.

The agency said the rule would remove $49 billion in medical debts from the credit reports of about 15 million Americans. It was adopted despite demands from Republicans in Congress that Biden's financial regulators stop issuing new rules as President-elect Donald Trump prepares to take office on Jan. 20.

The trade groups say the rule violates the Fair Credit Reporting Act, which expressly permits consumer reporting agencies to report information about medical debt and authorizes creditors to consider that information.

"It is black letter law that an agency cannot prohibit through regulations what Congress has expressly permitted by statute," the lawsuit said. "Because the final rule contravenes the statute, it should be vacated."

The case was assigned to U.S. District Judge Sean Jordan, a Trump appointee. The CFPB declined to comment.

According to the CFPB, medical debt provides little indication of whether a borrower is likely to repay a loan and the change should result in rising credit scores and could lead to an additional 22,000 low-cost mortgages per year being issued.

The new rule will also prohibit lenders from considering certain medical information in making lending decisions and help prevent debt collectors from seeking to coerce consumers into paying erroneous medical debts they do not actually owe, the agency said.

Banking and credit bureau industry groups argued that the ban could leave them blind to important information about the risk financial institutions face from borrowers, resulting in banks offering fewer loans.

(Reporting by Nate Raymond in Boston, Editing by Alexia Garamfalvi and Matthew Lewis)




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« Reply #2868 on: January 09, 2025, 11:57:59 AM »
The scenes are apocalyptic. I can't help but think of it as a sign. Fires in Cali became a norm. BUT it is WINTERa and this time, they are hitting LA Palisades, and even Sunset Blvd. It is pure chaos.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/los-angeles-wildfires-kill-two-and-trigger-exodus-as-firefighters-battle-blazes/ar-AA1xbXOf?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Los Angeles wildfires kill five and trigger exodus as firefighters battle blazes
Story by Jacob Soboroff • 1h • 5 min read

LOS ANGELES — Out-of-control wildfires forced thousands of people in Los Angeles County to flee their homes and businesses Wednesday in a real life Hollywood disaster that left firefighters and residents manning garden hoses powerless to stop the enormous flames from devouring everything in their path.

The fabled Sunset Boulevard was littered with abandoned vehicles after panicked motorists trapped by the gridlock left them where they were Tuesday and ran for their lives through the choking smoke, while the night sky was painted orange by fire.



By dawn, battalions of bulldozers were brought in to clear a path for the legions of other Los Angeles residents joining the exodus of some 80,000 people from infernos consuming large swaths of the Pasadena, Sylmar and Pacific Palisades areas, each fire fueled by powerful Santa Ana winds and feeding on bone-dry conditions.

All that had been missing from the horrific script, as of early Wednesday, were reports of deaths.

“It is an absolute miracle that we do not have any reported fatalities at this point," Los Angeles Councilwoman Traci Park, whose district includes the hardest-hit Pacific Palisades neighborhood, said on NBC’s “TODAY” show.  “Until the sun comes up and we can get assets back in the air safely, we won’t really know how much of the Palisades is still standing today."

But just a few hours later, the sun was blotted out by black skies as L.A. County Fire Chief Anthony C. Marrone broke the news that two people were killed in what's being called the Eaton Fire, which was ravaging the Angeles National Forest and Altadena area of Los Angeles County and Pasadena.

Later in the afternoon, officials said that five deaths had been confirmed in the Eaton Fire.



No details have been provided about the deaths, but Marrone warned that the winds fanning the fires are “placing all residents of Los Angeles County in danger.”

So far, tens of thousands of Los Angeles residents have been ordered to evacuate and officials urged residents to heed the warnings to get out.

“As the fires pop up, nobody knows where the next one will be,” Los Angeles Police Chief Jim McDonnell said.

Meanwhile, President Joe Biden was briefed by California Gov. Gavin Newsom and local fire officials at a Santa Monica fire station. Biden also approved a major disaster declaration that will clear the way for federal funds and resources to be be dispatched to California.

"The governor asked for a declaration of what provides for everything the federal government can do, and I’m prepared to sign it today, folks," Biden said.

Los Angeles County Fire has already requested mutual aid from Orange, Ventura, Santa Barbara and San Luis Obispo counties. Firefighters from as far away as Nevada, Oregon and Washington state were also racing to Los Angeles to help the local firefighters battling the blazes on the front lines.

The fires are “stretching the capacity of our emergency services to their maximum limits,” said Kristin M. Crowley, chief of the Los Angeles Fire Department.

In some parts of the city, the battle already appeared to be lost.

Much of Pacific Palisades, a neighborhood of some 23,000 people about 20 miles west of downtown Los Angeles that has been home to movie stars and Holocaust survivors, was reduced to ashes with more than 1,000 homes wiped out and most of the residents gone.

"The whole city has just burned to the ground," Vanessa Pellegrini, co-owner of Vittorio Ristorante & Pizzeria, told MSNBC. "There's nothing we can do."

No deaths were reported, but officials said dozens of residents who had not evacuated, along with firefighters who battled the blazes, have been injured.

Some of the area's most famous residents, like "Police Academy" star Steve Guttenberg, said "people are really panicking and really scared right now."

"Most people have evacuated their homes. But the fire is really raging. These winds are terrible, the winds are so hot,” he told MSNBC’s Chris Jansing. “It was like a volcano.”

The section of the Pacific Coast Highway that runs through Pacific Palisades was completely shut down. So were many of the other major arteries in the western end of Los Angeles closest to the Pacific Ocean.



Firefighters were also struggling to contain the Eaton Fire, which erupted around 6:30 p.m. Tuesday, and battling what's being called the Hurst Fire, which ignited around 10:30 p.m. Tuesday in Sylmar, which is north of San Fernando.

Los Angeles County Sheriff Robert Luna said that two arrests were made Wednesday morning for looting and issued a stern warning to anybody hoping to capitalize on the ongoing catastrophe.

“If you are thinking about coming into the any of these areas to steal from our residents, I’m going to tell you something: you’re going to be caught, you’re going to be arrested, and you’re going to be prosecuted," Luna said. "Don’t do that. Stay out of these areas."

Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass, who was in Ghana when the fires spread Tuesday, was expected to return to the city Wednesday.

Newsom, who was scheduled to travel to Washington, D.C., for the memorial service for former President Jimmy Carter, canceled his trip because of the wildfires, a spokesman has confirmed.

Los Angeles is the movie capital of the world but, because of the ongoing fires, the Screen Actors Guild was forced to cancel a live event scheduled for Wednesday morning to announce its annual awards nominations and, instead, did so online.

Black smoke was visible in the skies over Los Angeles neighborhoods like Silver Lake and in nearby communities like Burbank that are miles away from the infernos.

As a result, many of the city's best-known attractions, including the famous Hollywood sign, were closed Wednesday to the public, officials said.

So were many schools in Los Angeles Unified, the nation’s second-largest school district, because of the hazardous air conditions.

An index over 300 represents an emergency state, according to the Environmental Protection Agency’s air quality index. But some parts of Los Angeles are seeing indexes above 500, while some Pasadena locations are seeing indexes of 600 to 1,200.

Jacob Soboroff reported from Los Angeles. Corky Siemaszko reported from New York City.

This article was originally published on NBCNews.com















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« Reply #2869 on: January 10, 2025, 07:47:24 AM »
Some fire scenes in LA county. This is truly devastating. Some celebrities speaking about their homes. This is all so tragic.


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« Reply #2870 on: January 10, 2025, 07:53:15 AM »
This shows how the fires got started.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olBed9KdaNw
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« Reply #2871 on: January 11, 2025, 02:32:58 PM »
These fires are incredibly devastating. Lawrence O'Donnell sadly says, as he is recording, his home may burn down. I watched Meidas Touch last night. Ben Meisalas looked to be in a hotel. His home may burn down. This is the worst thing to hit LA. The scoop:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h1U1sZJasI
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« Reply #2872 on: January 14, 2025, 08:31:45 AM »
Let's hope this one takes and of course, the hostages can come home.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/qatar-hands-israel-hamas-final-draft-gaza-ceasefire-deal-official-tells-reuters-2025-01-13/

Final draft of Gaza truce deal presented to sides after 'breakthrough', official says
By Andrew Mills and Nidal Al-Mughrabi
January 13, 202512:42 PM PSTUpdated an hour ago

DOHA/CAIRO, Jan 13 (Reuters) - Mediators gave Israel and Hamas a final draft of a deal on Monday to end the war in Gaza, an official briefed on the negotiations said, after a midnight "breakthrough" in talks attended by envoys of both outgoing U.S. President Joe Biden and President-elect Donald Trump.

Biden said a ceasefire and hostage release deal he had championed was on "the brink" of coming to fruition and Hamas said it was keen on reaching an agreement.

"The deal ... would free the hostages, halt the fighting, provide security to Israel and allow us to significantly surge humanitarian assistance to the Palestinians who suffered terribly in this war that Hamas started," Biden said in a speech to highlight his foreign policy achievements.

The official briefed on the talks, who did not want to be otherwise identified, said the text for a ceasefire and release of hostages was presented by Qatar to both sides at talks in Doha, which included the chiefs of Israel's Mossad and Shin Bet spy agencies and Qatar's prime minister.

Another round of talks is planned in Doha on Tuesday morning to finalise remaining details, with Trump's Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff and Biden's envoy Brett McGurk expected to attend, as they had on Monday, the official said.

An Israeli official said negotiations were in advanced stages for the release of up to 33 hostages as part of the deal. The Hamas delegation in Doha issued a statement after a meeting with Qatar's Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al-Thani saying talks were progressing well.

Biden's national security adviser, Jake Sullivan, told reporters the negotiations were at a "pivotal" point, with gaps between two sides slowly getting removed. "I think there is a good chance we can close this ... the parties are right on the cusp of being able to close this deal," he said.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken said the sides were "closer than we've ever been" to a deal, and the ball was in Hamas' court.

"We are very hopeful that we get it over the finish line, finally after all this time," he told MSNBC, adding that the proposed deal was based on a framework Biden put out in May.
Blinken said negotiators wanted to make sure Trump would continue to back the deal on the table so Witkoff's participation has been "critical."

Israel's Kan radio, citing an Israeli official, reported on Monday that the Israeli delegation had briefed Israel’s leaders. Israel, Hamas and the foreign ministry of Qatar did not respond to requests for confirmation or comment.

Officials on both sides, while stopping short of confirming that a final draft had been reached, reported progress.

"The negotiation over some core issues made progress and we are working to conclude what remains soon," a Hamas official told Reuters.

Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon Saar told reporters: "There is progress, it looks much better than previously. I want to thank our American friends for the huge efforts they are investing to secure a hostage deal."

The United States, Qatar and Egypt have worked for more than a year on talks to end the war in Gaza.

In Cairo, an Egyptian security official told Reuters the draft sent to the two warring sides did not comprise the final agreement but "aims to resolve outstanding issues that had hindered previous negotiations".

Sullivan said Biden would soon speak with Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi about the negotiations.

HELL TO PAY

Israel's Channel 12 said Israeli government institutions had been told to prepare for the intake of weak and sick hostages.

The warring sides have agreed for months broadly on the principle of halting the fighting in return for the release of hostages held by Hamas and Palestinian detainees held by Israel. But Hamas has always insisted a deal must lead to a permanent end to the war and Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, while Israel has said it will not end the war until Hamas is dismantled.
Trump's Jan. 20 inauguration is now widely seen as a de facto deadline. Trump has said there would be "hell to pay" unless hostages held by Hamas are freed before he takes office, while Biden has also pushed hard for a deal before he leaves.

The official who first disclosed the draft said talks went until the early hours of Monday, with Witkoff pushing the Israeli delegation in the Qatari capital Doha and Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani pushing Hamas officials to finalise an agreement.

The head of Egypt's general intelligence agency Hassan Mahmoud Rashad was also in Doha as part of the talks. Rashad left Doha on Monday but a source familiar with the talks said an intelligence delegation stayed behind to play an active role.

Trump envoy Witkoff has travelled to Qatar and Israel several times since late November. He was in Doha on Friday and travelled to Israel to meet Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Saturday before returning to Doha.

Biden also spoke on Sunday by phone with Netanyahu, stressing "the immediate need for a ceasefire in Gaza and return of the hostages with a surge in humanitarian aid enabled by a stoppage in the fighting under the deal," the White House said.

Israel launched its assault in Gaza after Hamas fighters stormed across its borders in October 2023, killing 1,200 people and taking more than 250 hostages, according to Israeli tallies.
Since then, more than 46,000 people have been killed in Gaza, according to Palestinian health officials, with much of the enclave laid to waste and most of its population displaced.
Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich and his Religious Zionism party, a hardline nationalist party which has opposed previous attempts at a deal, said all its members would oppose a deal that didn't achieve Hamas' "destruction" and the latest proposal endangered Israel's national security.

Bloodshed continued in Gaza on Monday. Residents reported a series of explosions in Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip that targeted homes and roads. Palestinian health officials said at least 40 Palestinians were killed and dozens were wounded in Israeli military strikes in the Gaza Strip on Monday.

The Israeli military said five soldiers had been killed in fighting in northern Gaza, bringing to nine the number of its troops killed since Saturday.
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Reporting by Andrew Mills in Doha, Nidal Al Mughrabi in Cairo; Additional reporting by James Mackenzie, Maayan Lubell, Emily Rose in Jerusalem, Ahmed Mohamed Hassan in Cairo, Andrea Shalal, Trevor Hunnicutt, Susan Heavey and David Brunnstrom, Andrea Shalal, Simon Lewis and Daphne Psaledakis in Washington Writing by Andrew Mills, Michael Georgy and David Brunnstrom Editing by Gareth Jones, Peter Graff and Nia Williams



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« Reply #2873 on: January 14, 2025, 11:10:06 AM »
OMG this is hysterical. Good ole Dirty Don the Con. Well known he can't keep it in his pants. Cheated on all the wives. He got Carrie Underwood to perform at his inauguration. A step up from Kid Rock for sure.

But will she sing "Before He Cheats?" I would LMAO if she did.


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« Reply #2874 on: January 16, 2025, 03:23:57 AM »
They are close. I suspect the hostages to be released when Trump is in office, in similar vain when Regan took office and hostages were released. it will go on record as his "win."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/trump-moves-the-needle-on-a-gaza-ceasefire/ar-AA1xdsub?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Trump moves the needle on a Gaza ceasefire
Story by Ishaan Tharoor • 11h •

If a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas is clinched in the coming hours, the terms will likely be little different than what they would have been months ago. A number of living hostages in captivity in Gaza will be swapped for a number of Palestinian detainees in Israeli jails in a “first phase” of a truce. Hostilities will cease for a prescribed set of weeks, in the articulated hope that a later second phase of exchanges will happen and an extended peace will take root.

At numerous points over the past 15 months of ruinous war in Gaza — and particularly in the past eight months — Israel and Hamas have drawn close to agreeing on some version of this deal. Each time, talks have foundered at the 11th hour, with both sides blaming the other for the impasse. Secretary of State Antony Blinken has repeatedly accused Hamas of rejecting a ceasefire in previous rounds. But for months, Arab interlocutors and U.S. officials in private have also pointed the finger at Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who repeatedly scuppered deals with new demands that Hamas was unwilling to accept. It is widely believed that Netanyahu wanted to keep the conflict running in a bid to appease the far-right lawmakers who keep his coalition in power.

Sticking points remain now, too, but officials are cautiously hopeful for a breakthrough. “We believe that we have reached the final stages,” Majed al-Ansari, adviser to the Qatari prime minister and spokesman for Qatar’s Foreign Ministry, said at a news briefing Tuesday. “We have overcome the main obstacles in the disagreements between the two parties.”

The Biden administration is pushing hard in its final week in office to clinch a deal, doing so in coordination with the team assembled by incoming President-elect Donald Trump, whose Middle East envoy Steve Witkoff has traveled to both Israel and Qatar, the main staging ground for negotiations.

My colleagues outlined what we know of the proposal in play:

The first phase would involve 33 living hostages being released over a 42-day ceasefire, in exchange for the release of Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails, according to U.S. officials.
An Israeli official, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss negotiations, said Tuesday that the captives released in the first stage would be children, women, injured people and those 50 and older.

The Israeli official said that in a second stage, other remaining hostages and Israeli soldiers held captive by Hamas would be released. According to The Washington Post’s tracker, Israel estimates that there are 60 living hostages remaining in Gaza.

Israel would agree to allow hundreds of thousands of Palestinian civilians who have fled Israel’s bombardment in the south of Gaza to return to their homes in the north as long as unspecified security measures are in place.

If a ceasefire is achieved this week, it can be chalked up to Trump’s imminent return to office. According to Israeli news media, Witkoff’s blunt pressure tactics compelled Netanyahu to relent on some of his earlier positions.

As the U.S. election campaign took off last year, analysts assumed that Netanyahu, a stalwart Trump ally, would prefer to make a deal with a Republican back in the White House. The Israeli prime minister conveyed to U.S. interlocutors in the Biden administration that his hands were tied by local politics, with far-right allies in his coalition opposed to a hostage deal and eager for an even more brutal campaign in Gaza against Hamas. Itamar Ben Gvir, Israel’s national security minister and a far-right firebrand, claimed he foiled earlier ceasefire attempts as he threatened to quit Netanyahu’s government Tuesday.

Now, it seems Netanyahu is willing to call the bluff of figures like Ben Gvir. Little has changed apart from the political calendar in the United States.

“By May 2024, [Netanyahu] had reneged on and disowned a plan he himself had presented to Biden. During those months, the hostage and ceasefire deal that may come to fruition in the coming days was already on the table,” wrote Alon Pinkas in Israeli daily Haaretz. “For eight full months, such a deal was presented time and time again by Qatar and the United States. But Netanyahu only had politics and his own survival in mind, and then the U.S. election and Trump’s inauguration.”

For much of 2024, Netanyahu’s critics within Israel, including an animated bloc comprising the loved ones and friends of hostages in Gaza, protested against his government’s seeming resistance to making a deal. The Biden administration urged a ceasefire, but exerted little leverage on Israel to compel Netanyahu to compromise. All the while, hostages continued to die alongside thousands of Palestinians slain in Israeli strikes and amid a spiraling humanitarian catastrophe.

“Trump persuaded Netanyahu to accept his own proposal, a proposal that was first presented in May and was still relevant in August,” wrote Ben Caspit in the Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv. “There isn’t any need to begin to rant and rave now about how it was Hamas that prevented a deal from being reached. First of all because we have no influence over Hamas, but we do over our own leaders. Second, because Hamas would have agreed to a deal back in August had it been given what it is being given now. It’s that simple.”

In the event of a ceasefire, it’s far from certain that real peace will follow. “There is a lot of skepticism all around that this is a deal that can progress beyond phase one,” Michael Hanna, U.S. program director at the International Crisis Group, told me.

A right-wing Israeli government may not be keen to make further concessions to Hamas, and the Palestinian militant group may not want to surrender all the bleak leverage it has accrued in capturing Israeli hostages. The Trump administration, in turn, may not do much to force through a political agreement that would enable reconstruction in Gaza and a push toward greater Palestinian rights or even statehood.

“There are no indications that they have very ambitious plans for Gaza diplomacy and governance,” Hanna added.

For Israelis and Palestinians alike, concerns abound. “How is it possible that my grandson, who was kidnapped at 8.5 months old, will mark his second birthday in hell?” asked Eli Bibas, whose relatives, including two young children, remain in captivity. “How is it possible that he still hasn’t celebrated a birthday with his father, with his family, in his home and in his country?”

Meanwhile, Israeli bombardments of Gaza intensified, killing dozens Tuesday. “May God save us in the next hours and protect people because they go crazy in the last hours,” Abeer Maher, a 36-year-old English teacher in Deir al-Balah, told The Post. “We have not slept all night.”









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« Reply #2875 on: January 16, 2025, 06:09:00 AM »
It says the deal is reached. Now I know, this is only a truce, not a solution. A two state solution IS the solution to prevent future conflict.

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Israel and Hamas reach deal on Gaza ceasefire and hostage release
The Biden administration is calling for a final push before the president leaves office, with many seeing the Trump inauguration as an unofficial deadline.

Jan. 15, 2025, 9:05 AM PST / Updated Jan. 15, 2025, 10:37 AM PST
By Keir Simmons, Andrea Mitchell, Raf Sanchez and David Hodari
WASHINGTON — A ceasefire deal has been reached to end 15 months of fighting in the Gaza Strip, Hamas and Israeli officials and a source briefed on the negotiations told NBC News on Wednesday.

The hard-won agreement will also free dozens of hostages held in Gaza, as well as Palestinians in Israeli jails, bringing the first real break in violence since a weeklong truce expired Dec. 1, 2023.

The new follows weeks of talks brokered by the United States, Qatar and Egypt, amid a brutal winter for civilians in Gaza, as well as dramatic developments across the Middle East that have dealt setbacks to Iran, an Israeli foe.

Israel and Hamas have not officially announced a deal, although senior Hamas official Basem Naim confirmed to NBC News the militant group had agreed to it.

"We are very happy to reach a deal today to stop the aggression against our people, but unfortunately we were able to reach the same deal last May," Naim said.

Another source with direct knowledge of the talks and an Israeli official briefed on the deal also confirmed the news.

President Joe Biden was expected to make a statement on the agreement later Wednesday.

Under the plan, Israel will withdraw its forces eastward from densely populated areas of Gaza, according to a portion of the deal shared by Hamas and written in English.

Hamas, meanwhile, will release 33 hostages in exchange for 100 Palestinian prisoners with life sentences, according to the text. Israel will also release 1,000 Palestinian prisoners that were not involved in the Oct. 7 attacks, the text says, and an unspecified number of Palestinian prisoners will also be released abroad or in Gaza.

In a statement, Netanyahu's office touted what it characterized as a compromise on Hamas' part.

"In light of Prime Minister Netanyahu’s firm stance, Hamas has backed down on its demand at the last minute to change the deployment of forces on" the Philadelphi Corridor, the Israeli name for the narrow strip of land between Gaza and Egypt.

"However, there are still several unresolved clauses in the outline, and we hope that the details will be finalized tonight," the prime minister's office added.

Gil Dickmann, cousin of deceased hostage Carmel Gat, told NBC News that it was "very exciting" to see that finally hostages were going to be returned.

"It’s also really sad to know that Carmel could have and should have been among them, but a deal didn’t come in time and she was murdered in captivity," he said.

Earlier, a diplomatic source in Washington told NBC News that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was preparing to meet with his security Cabinet, where approval of the deal was expected quickly. He would then take the pact to the full Cabinet, which is also expected to approve.

Israel’s Supreme Court would have 24 hours to permit an appeal, so the earliest a ceasefire could go into effect would be Friday, the source said. The first group of hostages would come out Sunday, the person added.

Israel launched its military campaign in the Palestinian enclave after Hamas’ Oct. 7 terrorist attack, in which 1,200 people were killed and 250 taken hostage. Just more than 100 were released in late November 2023 during a pause in hostilities, in exchange for 240 Palestinian prisoners.

The war has shattered Gaza’s infrastructure and displaced most of its population. Health officials in the enclave say more than 46,000 Palestinians have been killed by Israeli forces — most of them civilians.

The chances for a ceasefire seemed vanishingly small after many false dawns in recent months.

The Biden administration had called for a final effort before the president leaves office, and many in the region and in Washington viewed Trump's inauguration Monday as an unofficial deadline.

Trump pledged last month that “all hell will break out” if Hamas doesn’t promise to release hostages by Jan. 20 and his Mideast envoy, Steve Witkoff, joined talks in the region to push for a deal.

Internationally, Israel's staunchest allies have largely stood by it during its war in Gaza, but that support has been coupled with the strongest criticism in a generation and widespread calls for a ceasefire from the United States and others.

World leaders have also strongly condemned incidents of sexual violence during Hamas' attack on Israel, as well as allegations of the sexual abuse of Palestinian prisoners by members of the Israeli military, which Israel has said it is investigating.

Israel’s allies have been largely supportive of its proxy war against Iran, which the U.S. has long accused of funding Hamas and the Lebanon-based Hezbollah.

Israel and Hezbollah agreed in November to halt months of deadly fighting with a ceasefire that has largely held.The scale and nature of Israel’s offensive have drawn condemnation from abroad.

In November, the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant against Netanyahu for alleged war crimes and crimes against humanity. Amnesty International and Doctors Without Borders in December accused Israel of carrying out a genocide in Gaza.

Israel has rejected those accusations as false and antisemitic.

The status of dozens of hostages still held by Hamas has riven Israeli society, with the families of remaining hostages leading a campaign to pressure the government to strike a deal.

But Netanyahu has also faced opposing domestic pressure, with some senior ministers rejecting the deal as a "surrender" as sections of Israeli society push for a more hard-line approach.











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« Reply #2876 on: January 16, 2025, 08:19:21 AM »
More on this:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-and-hamas-agree-to-ceasefire-deal-to-pause-gaza-war-and-release-some-hostages-mediators-say/ar-AA1xfYYc?ocid=BingNewsSerp

Mediators tout a Gaza ceasefire deal and plan to free hostages. Israel says details still in flux

Story by NAJIB JOBAIN, SAMY MAGDY and JOSEF FEDERMAN • 4h



DOHA, Qatar (AP) — Israel and Hamas agreed to pause the devastating war in the Gaza Strip, mediators announced Wednesday, raising the possibility of winding down the deadliest and most destructive fighting between the bitter enemies.

The three-phase ceasefire deal promises the release of dozens of hostages held by militants in Gaza and hundreds of Palestinian prisoners in Israel, and it will allow hundreds of thousands of people displaced in Gaza to return to what remains of their homes. It also will flood desperately needed humanitarian aid into a territory ravaged by 15 months of war.

The prime minister of Qatar, Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman Al Thani, said the ceasefire would go into effect on Sunday. He made the announcement in the Qatari capital of Doha, the site of weeks of painstaking negotiations.

U.S. President Joe Biden touted the deal from Washington, saying the ceasefire will stay in place as long as Israel and Hamas remain at the negotiating table over a long-term truce. Biden credited months of “dogged and painstaking American diplomacy” for landing the deal, while noting that his administration and President-elect Donald Trump’s team had been “speaking as one” in the latest negotiations.

The office of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement that the last details were still being ironed out and that it hoped they “will be finalized tonight.”

An Israeli official familiar with the talks who spoke on condition of anonymity said those details center on confirming the list of Palestinian prisoners who are to be freed. Any agreement must be approved by Netanyahu’s Cabinet.

Once the first phase of the deal takes effect, it is expected to deliver an initial six-week halt to fighting along with the opening of negotiations on ending the war altogether.

Over those six weeks, 33 of the nearly 100 hostages are to be reunited with their loved ones after months in captivity with no contact with the outside world, though it’s unclear if all are alive.

It remained unclear exactly when and how many displaced Palestinians would be able to return to their homes and whether the agreement would lead to a complete end to the war and the full withdrawal of Israeli troops from Gaza — key Hamas demands for releasing the remaining captives.

Many longer-term questions about postwar Gaza remain, including who will rule the territory or oversee the daunting task of reconstruction after a brutal conflict that has destabilized the broader Middle East and sparked worldwide protests.

Hamas triggered the war with its Oct. 7, 2023, cross-border attack, which killed some 1,200 in Israel and took 250 others hostage. Israel responded with a fierce offensive that has killed over 46,000 Palestinians, according to local health officials, who do not distinguish between civilians and militants but say women and children make up more than half of those killed.

More than 100 hostages were freed from Gaza in a weeklong truce in November 2023.

The U.S., along with Egypt and Qatar, have brokered months of indirect talks between the bitter enemies that finally culminated in this latest deal. It comes after Israel and the Lebanese militant group Hezbollah agreed to a ceasefire in November, after more than a year of conflict linked to the war in the Gaza.

U.N. and international relief organizations estimate that some 90% of Gaza’s 2.3 million people have been displaced, often multiple times. They say tens of thousands of homes have been destroyed and hospitals are barely functioning. Experts have warned that famine may be underway in northern Gaza.

Abed Radwan, a Palestinian father of three, called the ceasefire deal "the best day in my life and the life of the Gaza people ... Thank God. Thank God.”

Radwan, who has been displaced from the town of Beit Lahiya for over a year and shelters in Gaza City, said he hopes to return and to rebuild his home. As he spoke to AP by phone, his voice was overshadowed by the celebrations of fellow Gazans.

In Israel, hundreds of demonstrators gathered outside Israel’s military headquarters in Tel Aviv, calling for a deal to be completed. Many held posters of hostages held by Hamas, others hoisted candles in the air.

As the deal was announced, some people were unaware that it had gone through. Sharone Lifschitz, whose father Oded is being held in Gaza, told the AP by phone she was stunned and grateful but won’t believe it until she sees all the hostages come home.

“I’m so desperate to see them if by some miracle my father has survived,” she said.

The Hostage Families Forum, which has long pressed Israeli leaders to make a deal that would bring the captives home, said it welcomed Wednesday's announcement with joy and relief.

“After 460 days of our family members being held in Hamas tunnels, we are closer than ever to reuniting with our loved ones,” the group said in a statement.

Biden, who has provided crucial military aid to Israel but expressed exasperation over civilian deaths in Gaza, announced the outline of the three-phase ceasefire agreement on May 31. The agreement eventually agreed to followed that framework.

He said the first phase would last for six weeks and include a “full and complete ceasefire,” a withdrawal of Israeli forces from densely populated areas of Gaza and the release of a number of hostages, including women, older adults and wounded people, in exchange for the release of hundreds of Palestinian prisoners. Humanitarian assistance would surge, with hundreds of trucks entering Gaza each day.

The second and most difficult phase would include the release of all remaining living hostages, including male soldiers, and Israeli forces would withdraw from Gaza. The third phase calls for the start of a major reconstruction of Gaza, which faces decades of rebuilding from devastation caused by the war.

Hamas had been demanding assurances for a permanent end to the war and complete withdrawal of all Israeli forces from Gaza. Israel, meanwhile, has repeatedly said it would not halt the war until it destroys Hamas’ military and governing capabilities.

With Biden’s days in office numbered and President-elect Donald Trump set to take over, both sides had been under heavy pressure to agree to a deal.

Trump celebrated the agreement in a posting on his Truth Social social media platform: “WE HAVE A DEAL FOR THE HOSTAGES IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THEY WILL BE RELEASED SHORTLY. THANK YOU!”

Jonathan Panikoff, director of the Scowcroft Middle East Security Initiative at the Atlantic Council, said Biden deserves praise for continuing to push the talks. But Trump’s threats to Hamas and his efforts to “cajole” Netanyahu deserve credit as well.

“The ironic reality is that at a time of heightened partisanship even over foreign policy, the deal represents how much more powerful and influential U.S. foreign policy can be when it’s bipartisan,” Panikoff said.

Hezbollah’s acceptance of a ceasefire in Lebanon after it had suffered heavy blows, and the overthrow of President Bashar Assad in Syria, were both major setbacks for Iran and its allies across the region, including Hamas, which was left increasingly isolated.

Israel has come under heavy international criticism, including from its closest ally, the United States, over the civilian toll. Israel says it has killed around 17,000 militants — though it has not provided evidence to support the claim. It also blames Hamas for the civilian casualties, accusing the group of using schools, hospitals and residential areas for military purposes.

The International Court of Justice is investigating allegations brought by South Africa that Israel has committed genocide. The International Criminal Court, a separate body also based in The Hague, has issued arrest warrants for Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, his former defense minister and a Hamas commander for war crimes and crimes against humanity linked to the war.

Israel and the United States have condemned the actions taken by both courts.

Netanyahu also faced great domestic pressure to bring home the hostages, whose plight has captured the nation’s attention. Their families have become a powerful lobbying group with wide public support backed by months of mass protests urging the government to reach a deal with Hamas.

Israeli authorities have already concluded that more than a third of the roughly 100 remaining people held captive are dead, and there are fears that others are no longer alive. A series of videos released by Hamas showing surviving hostages in distress, combined with news that a growing number of abducted Israelis have died, put added pressure on the Israeli leader.

Hamas, a militant group that does not accept Israel’s existence, has come under overwhelming pressure from Israeli military operations, including the invasion of Gaza’s largest cities and towns and the takeover of the border between Gaza and Egypt. Its top leaders, including Yahya Sinwar, who was believed to have helped mastermind the Oct. 7, 2023, attack, have been killed.

But its fighters have regrouped in some of the hardest-hit areas after the withdrawal of Israeli forces, raising the prospect of a prolonged insurgency if the war continues.

Netanyahu has vowed to continue the war until Hamas’s military and governing capabilities are destroyed. But it has never been clear what that would entail or if it’s even possible, given the group’s deep roots in Palestinian society, its presence in Lebanon and the occupied West Bank, and its exiled leadership.

Both sides still face many difficult and unanswered questions.

As the war winds down, Netanyahu will face growing calls for postwar investigations that could find him at least partially responsible for the security failures of Oct. 7 — the worst in Israel’s history. His far-right governing partners, who opposed a ceasefire deal, could also bring down the coalition and push the country into early elections.

There is still no plan for who will govern Gaza after the war. Israel has said it will work with local Palestinians not affiliated with Hamas or the Western-backed Palestinian Authority. But it is unclear if such partners exist, and Hamas has threatened anyone who cooperates with Israeli forces.

The United States has tried to advance sweeping postwar plans for a reformed Palestinian Authority to govern Gaza with Arab and international assistance. As part of those plans, the U.S. hope Saudi Arabia would normalize relations with Israel in return for U.S. security guarantees and aid in setting up a civilian nuclear program.

But those plans depend on credible progress toward the creation of a Palestinian state, something Netanyahu and much of Israel’s political class oppose. Netanyahu has said Israel will maintain open-ended security control over Gaza as well as the occupied West Bank, territories captured by Israel in the 1967 war that the Palestinians want for their future state.

In the absence of a postwar arrangement with Palestinian support, Hamas is likely to remain a significant force in Gaza and could reconstitute its military capabilities if Israeli forces fully withdraw.

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Federman reported from Jerusalem. Magdy reported from Cairo. Aamer Madhani, Zeke Miller and Matthew Lee in Washington contributed to this report.



















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« Reply #2877 on: January 16, 2025, 08:22:59 AM »
My assessment on this Peace deal. This is happening right before Trump goes in office. I think Hamas knew, once Trump goes in, he would allow Netanyahu to do what he wanted, and possibly allow our troops to go on. I think they know Trump is crazy enough to do all that. And they agreed to Biden's deal now, vs having to deal with Trump later. But I do feel later he will try to broker a deal with the Abraham Accords to get more in.
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« Reply #2878 on: January 21, 2025, 05:54:55 AM »
He's now officially president.

And Saturday, he started a meme coin, and increased his wealth by about 50 billion. And I am sure, folks will lose a lot of money.

Oh the King of the Grift!


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« Reply #2879 on: January 21, 2025, 07:49:50 AM »
It's making the rounds in the news. It is evangelical Christians who put this sad sack into office. Now? He didn't swear on the Bible at the inauguration. Tradition is to put a hand on, and swear on it. Now granted, a few in our history did not. But very rare. This sure seems to be an antichrist move here folks.

It's going to be a rough four years.


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