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Jahn

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Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Reply #495 on: July 12, 2008, 04:38:02 AM »
;D

Thanks!
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I was going through my IE favorites today, for cleaning away old ones but then found this and let it remain. Now I thought it resonated with your post.

Perhaps too much positive New Age and nice loving kindness for such an old traveller like me but why not let the flowers blossom up? - It appear to be serious people behind that Light connection homepage. So let the collective balm of our prayers and unconditional love soothe our worn souls ...

tangerine dream

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Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Reply #496 on: July 12, 2008, 04:41:10 AM »
I was going through my IE favorites today, for cleaning away old ones but then found this and let it remain. Now I thought it resonated with your post.

Perhaps too much positive New Age and nice loving kindness for such an old traveller like me but why not let the flowers blossom up? - It appear to be serious people behind that Light connection homepage. So let the collective balm of our prayers and unconditional love soothe our worn souls ...


...Too much positive... nice loving kindness ;)

 ;D
 :-*

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The power of unconditional love is the strongest. There are many many people on the planet who represent love and try to live it as best they can. These people may use different terminology and have different belief systems. These are like the different languages we speak, but the message is the same for many of us. Love is the most important thing, and the shared belief in the basic goodness in all of us. It is through the love and caring and basic kindness toward one another that each of us can make a different. All the things that seem to be small add up :)

 

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« Reply #497 on: July 12, 2008, 04:47:25 AM »
Who calls the shots and have all these children come up with any alternatives? There are too many of us - humans - and we consume too much.

In autumn colours are always brightest.
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« Reply #498 on: July 12, 2008, 08:56:03 AM »
You did give her quite an adventure, x!

he's always doing that to people he meets

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« Reply #499 on: July 13, 2008, 01:18:31 AM »
This is where it all began, post the Kyoto Treaty abdication and prior to 9-11. Some suspicious sorts might wonder if this has been behind everything bush has done in his administration:

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Bush tries to blame Congress for high energy costs

By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House Correspondent 5 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - President Bush on Saturday tried to pin the blame on Congress for soaring energy prices and said lawmakers need to lift long-standing restrictions on drilling for oil in pristine lands and offshore tracts believed to hold huge reserves of fuel.

"It's time for members of Congress to address the pain that high gas prices are causing our citizens," the president said. "Every extra dollar that American families spend because of high gas prices is one less dollar they can use to put food on the table or send a child to college. The American people deserve better."

With gasoline prices above $4 a gallon, Bush and his Republican allies think Americans are less reluctant to allow drilling offshore and in an Alaska wildlife refuge that environmentalists have fought successfully for decades to protect. Nearly half the people surveyed by the Pew Research Center in late June said they now consider energy exploration and drilling more important than conservation, compared with a little over a third who felt that way only five months ago. The sharpest shift in attitude came among political liberals.

Democrats say they are for drilling, but argue that oil companies aren't going after the oil where they already have leases. So why open new, protected areas? they ask. Democrats say there are 68 million acres of federal land and waters where oil and gas companies hold leases, but aren't producing oil.

"Americans are fed up every time they go to fill up and they're right to demand action. But instead of a serious response, President Bush and his allies simply repeat the same old line more drilling," Rep. Chris Van Hollen, D-Md., said in the Democrats' radio address.

"Democrats support more drilling," he said. "In fact, what the president hasn't told you is that the oil companies are already sitting on 68 million acres of federal lands with the potential to nearly double U.S. oil production. That is why in the coming days congressional Democrats will vote on 'Use It or Lose It' legislation requiring the big oil companies to develop these resources or lose their leases to someone else who will."

"But we know that drilling by itself will not solve the problem of high gas prices," Van Hollen said. "We cannot drill our way to energy independence."

He cited Democrats' calls to tap the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve, because it is full and "America's rainy day is now." And he said the country must focus on new energy policies that focus on alternatives to oil.

Bush said that Democrats are at fault and that "Americans are increasingly frustrated with Congress' failure to take action.

"One of the factors driving up high gas prices is that many of our oil deposits here in the United States have been put off-limits for exploration and production. Past efforts to meet the demand for oil by expanding domestic resources have been repeatedly rejected by Democrats in Congress."

Bush repeated his call for Congress to lift the restrictions, including a ban on offshore drilling. A succession of presidents from George H.W. Bush to Bill Clinton to the current president have sided against drilling in these waters as has Congress each year for 27 years, seeking to protect beaches and coastal states' tourism economies.

No, it couldn't be the case that alternate forms of energy should be developed -- it has to be the oil.

tangerine dream

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Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Reply #500 on: July 13, 2008, 10:04:42 AM »

Who calls the shots and have all these children come up with any alternatives?



There is so much info available Juhani to answer your question, but here's a little bit.


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The Rainbow Children seem to be here to implement the Divine Will, they will use their strong will and energy to build the new world on the foundation of peace and harmony the crystal children are laying down. And the crystal children are only able to lay down that foundation because the indigo children have alrady forged the path and broken down all of the old barriers! There is a pattern that is emerging within the soul groups of children that are coming into this world, and as we watch them, we can get a very good idea of where our world is headed.

In the new world which the Indigos are ushering in, we will all be much more aware of our intuitive thoughts and feelings. We won't rely so much upon the spoken or written word. Communication will be faster, more direct, and more honest, because it will be mind to mind. Already, increasing numbers of us are getting in touch with our psychic abilities. Our interest in the paranormal is at an all-time high, accompanied by books, television shows, and movies on the topic.


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Special Message for Indigos


This message is for all indigo children and indigo adults. You are here on earth right now for a very important reason. You may be confused as to why there are people suddenly talking about "new children" with special psychic powers. This is understandable, because never before has such a massive event as the spiritual awakening of millions of souls occurred in modern history. There are many theories as to why like-minded humans as yourself are being incarnated on the earth at this time. You do not need to be confused, frightened, or skeptical about who you are. It has been noted, thanks to several variables, tests and statistics that every child being born these days is a "new child" and I say new child because not only are there people such as you called indigos, which indicates the indigo in your aura, but there are also newer children with a little different mindset and purpose called crystal children and an even newer form of human called rainbow children which are the greatest blessing that are occurring on this planet right now. However, since this message is to indigos such as yourself, I wish to make you aware of who you are, why you feel the way you do, and what your mission is for this life.

You are an old soul whose spirit has lived before on this planet, but in other bodies throughout history. As you completed each life, the illusion of death and the fragmenting of your conscious and unconscious mind (your soul and your spirit) made you forget all that you accomplished previously and even who you were. Of course, there are some of you who remember your more recent past life or at least you did until about the age of 5. There are several ways to help you remember those past lives and the reason you should remember them is not because it would be something interesting to know, but because it will identify exactly where you left off on your spiritual journey before your organic body failed you. It will better help you understand that you are indeed a special soul who was on some sort of spiritual journey and you must come back to that path and continue it because the planet needs you more than ever. All indigos as yourself have been on a spiritual journey of some sort previously and have been guided by a much higher power to incarnate all at once right now, at this point in linear time. This is extremely exciting and something that you may doubt at first but as you find out more about yourself, through such techniques as past life regression, astral projection, lucid dreaming, chakra cleansing, kinesis, and meditation, you will come to understand more fully your self and your role in the world.

You may feel angry. You may feel that the system is something that you need to destroy and build up a new order for the world. This is something that is felt by all indigos and is why there is such a rise in youth standing up to the old authority that exists everywhere on the planet. Indigos such as yourself have been said to be the "warrior spirits" who are to break down the old world order and establish a new peaceful order that has nothing to do with what exists now. You are clearing a path for the so-called crystal children who are quite different from you because they are in no way warrior spirits but tranquil peacemakers who will shift the global consciousness to the frequency of pure unconditional love. Indigos can become enlightened and raise their frequencies to that of crystal children and you can also turn into a crystal child, but this is not easy. For most of you indigos, staying an indigo child will be good enough and in fact, it is not expected that you do any more than is expected from you at this time. You have enough on your mind to do, such as break down the old barriers that have kept humans away from their true selves and their spirituality. You are the ones that will completely transform the world we live in. The planet's future is in your hands, please remember this so that there will be a future for us and for those who will be born after us.

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Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Reply #501 on: July 13, 2008, 10:08:49 AM »
That's not an answer - who votes and who makes decisions in important places?

I have heard much of that stuff you post - it is merely unrealised potential. These stories and and heralded messages are just like in the beginning of 1990s, but how many actually heeded them? Minority and even less have have made a serious progress.

They MIGHT do something, but there are competing forces and time is running out.
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tangerine dream

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« Reply #502 on: July 13, 2008, 10:37:24 AM »

That's not an answer - who votes and who makes decisions in important places?



That is my answer.   ;)

These are the next generations...

Change is happening now.
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erik

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Re: WE'RE STUFFED!!!
« Reply #503 on: July 13, 2008, 05:56:15 PM »
I understand it is a matter of faith to you. It's fine. Eventually, time will tell, time always tells. Just remember - Jesus brought us a great message, and look where we are now. Maniacs running around. The message became distorted and twisted beyond recognition.

I hope, humanity will not go back to the telepathic tyranny of a kind of 'old seers', introduced by these more capable children. The egos and installations of these kids evolve in the very present world where their parents and whole societies have been thoroughly hooked up...
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« Reply #504 on: July 13, 2008, 08:51:14 PM »
Interesting mentioning the next generations...
they have one enormous task before them.
Can't see them looking back at the current world with any fondness.

tangerine dream

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« Reply #505 on: July 14, 2008, 12:27:25 AM »
I understand it is a matter of faith to you. It's fine. Eventually, time will tell, time always tells. Just remember - Jesus brought us a great message, and look where we are now. Maniacs running around. The message became distorted and twisted beyond recognition.

I hope, humanity will not go back to the telepathic tyranny of a kind of 'old seers', introduced by these more capable children. The egos and installations of these kids evolve in the very present world where their parents and whole societies have been thoroughly hooked up...

Its not a matter of faith for me as you say Juhani, but I have no desire to explain.


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Interesting mentioning the next generations...
they have one enormous task before them.
Can't see them looking back at the current world with any fondness.

And they do not.   
But they are aware...
Which is more than I can say for many before them.


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tangerine dream

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« Reply #506 on: July 14, 2008, 07:52:31 AM »
 ::) :-*

erik

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« Reply #507 on: July 14, 2008, 09:01:58 PM »
End-Timers trying to launch the Last War?

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President George W Bush backs Israeli plan for strike on Iran

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article4322508.ece

As Tehran tests new missiles, America believes only a show of force can deter President Ahmadinejad

Uzi Mahnaimi in Washington

President George W Bush has told the Israeli government that he may be prepared to approve a future military strike on Iranian nuclear facilities if negotiations with Tehran break down, according to a senior Pentagon official.

Despite the opposition of his own generals and widespread scepticism that America is ready to risk the military, political and economic consequences of an airborne strike on Iran, the president has given an “amber light” to an Israeli plan to attack Iran’s main nuclear sites with long-range bombing sorties, the official told The Sunday Times.

“Amber means get on with your preparations, stand by for immediate attack and tell us when you’re ready,” the official said. But the Israelis have also been told that they can expect no help from American forces and will not be able to use US military bases in Iraq for logistical support.

Nor is it certain that Bush’s amber light would ever turn to green without irrefutable evidence of lethal Iranian hostility. Tehran’s test launches of medium-range ballistic missiles last week were seen in Washington as provocative and poorly judged, but both the Pentagon and the CIA concluded that they did not represent an immediate threat of attack against Israeli or US targets.

“It’s really all down to the Israelis,” the Pentagon official added. “This administration will not attack Iran. This has already been decided. But the president is really preoccupied with the nuclear threat against Israel and I know he doesn’t believe that anything but force will deter Iran.”

The official added that Israel had not so far presented Bush with a convincing military proposal. “If there is no solid plan, the amber will never turn to green,” he said.

There was also resistance inside the Pentagon from officers concerned about Iranian retaliation. “The uniform people are opposed to the attack plans, mainly because they think it will endanger our soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan,” the source said.

Complicating the calculations in both Washington and Tel Aviv is the prospect of an incoming Democratic president who has already made it clear that he prefers negotiation to the use of force.

Senator Barack Obama’s previous opposition to the war in Iraq, and his apparent doubts about the urgency of the Iranian threat, have intensified pressure on the Israeli hawks to act before November’s US presidential election. “If I were an Israeli I wouldn’t wait,” the Pentagon official added.

The latest round of regional tension was sparked by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, which fired nine long and medium-range missiles in war game manoeuvres in the Gulf last Wednesday.

Iran’s state-run media reported that one of them was a modified Shahab-3 ballistic missile, which has a claimed range of 1,250 miles and could theoretically deliver a one-ton nuclear warhead over Israeli cities. Tel Aviv is about 650 miles from western Iran. General Hossein Salami, a senior Revolutionary Guard commander, boasted that “our hands are always on the trigger and our missiles are ready for launch”.

Condoleezza Rice, the US secretary of state, said she saw the launches as “evidence that the missile threat is not an imaginary one”, although the impact of the Iranian stunt was diminished on Thursday when it became clear that a photograph purporting to show the missiles being launched had been faked.

The one thing that all sides agree on is that any strike by either Iran or Israel would trigger a catastrophic round of retaliation that would rock global oil markets, send the price of petrol soaring and wreck the progress of the US military effort in Iraq.

Abdalla Salem El-Badri, secretary-general of Opec, the oil producers’ consortium, said last week that a military conflict involving Iran would see an “unlimited” rise in prices because any loss of Iranian production — or constriction of shipments through the Strait of Hormuz — could not be replaced. Iran is Opec’s second-largest producer after Saudi Arabia.

Equally worrying for Bush would be the impact on the US mission in Iraq, which after years of turmoil has seen gains from the military “surge” of the past few months, and on American operations in the wider region. A senior Iranian official said yesterday that Iran would destroy Israel and 32 American military bases in the Middle East in response to any attack.

Yet US officials acknowledge that no American president can afford to remain idle if Israel is threatened. How genuine the Iranian threat is was the subject of intense debate last week, with some analysts arguing that Iran might have a useable nuclear weapon by next spring and others convinced that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is engaged in a dangerous game of bluffing — mainly to impress a domestic Iranian audience that is struggling with economic setbacks and beginning to question his leadership.

Among the sceptics is Kenneth Katzman, a former CIA analyst and author of a book on the Revolutionary Guard. “I don’t subscribe to the view that Iran is in a position to inflict devastating damage on anyone,” said Katzman, who is best known for warning shortly before 9/11 that terrorists were planning to attack America.

“The Revolutionary Guards have always underperformed militarily,” he said. “Their equipment is quite inaccurate if not outright inoperable. Those missile launches were more like putting up a ‘beware of the dog’ sign. They want everyone to think that if you mess with them, you will get bitten.”

A former adviser to Rice noted that Ahmadinejad’s confrontational attitude had earned him powerful enemies among Iran’s religious leadership. Professor Shai Feldman, director of Middle East studies at Brandeis University, said the Iranian government was getting “clobbered” because of global economic strains. “His [Ahmadinejad's] failed policies have made Iran more vulnerable to sanctions and people close to the mullahs have decided he’s a liability,” he said.

In Israel, Ehud Olmert, the prime minister, has his own domestic problems with a corruption scandal that threatens to unseat him and the media have been rife with speculation that he might order an attack on Iran to distract attention from his difficulties. According to one of his closest friends, Olmert recently warned him that “in three months’ time it will be a different Middle East”.

Yet even the most hawkish officials acknowledge that Israel would face what would arguably be the most challenging military mission of its 60-year existence.

“No one here is talking about more than delaying the [nuclear] programme,” said the Pentagon source. He added that Israel would need to set back the Iranians by at least five years for an attack to be considered a success.

Even that may be beyond Israel’s competence if it has to act alone. Obvious targets would include Iran’s Isfahan plant, where uranium ore is converted into gas, the Natanz complex where this gas is used to enrich uranium in centrifuges and the plutonium-producing Arak heavy water plant. But Iran is known to have scattered other elements of its nuclear programme in underground facilities around the country. Neither US nor Israeli intelligence is certain that it knows where everything is.

“Maybe the Israelis could start off the attack and have us finish it off,” Katzman added. “And maybe that has been their intention all along. But in terms of the long-term military campaign that would be needed to permanently suppress Iran’s nuclear programme, only the US is perceived as having that capability right now.”

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« Reply #508 on: July 14, 2008, 09:42:11 PM »
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Antarctic ice shelf collapse 'imminent'

http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/climate-change/antarctic-ice-shelf-collapse-imminent-866504.html

By Geoffrey Lean, Environment Editor
Sunday, 13 July 2008

Scientists are warning that an Antarctic ice shelf the size of Northern Ireland is on the verge of disintegration, even though it is now the middle of the southern hemisphere's winter.

The European Space Agency says new satellite pictures show that the Wilkins shelf – the largest to be threatened so far – is "hanging by its last thread". Extending for approximately 5,600 square miles, it has been held in place by a thin ice bridge connecting it to an island, but this is now fracturing.

The shelf, which lies near the base of the Antarctic Peninsula, had not been expected to collapse until the early 2020s. It provides further evidence that the planet is warming more quickly than predicted.

Scientists are stunned that it is continuing to melt in the depths of winter, and believe that warm water is welling up from the ocean to attack it from underneath. So far seven shelves on the peninsula have collapsed due to climate change.

On Friday, President Bush – who last week told the G8 summit "Goodbye from the world's greatest polluter" – defied a 2007 ruling by the US Supreme Court to take action on global warming under the Clean Air Act.

erik

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« Reply #509 on: July 21, 2008, 08:47:20 PM »
Well, what can one say?

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Australian climate report like 'disaster novel': minister

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080706/sc_afp/australiaclimatedrought

SYDNEY (AFP) - Heatwaves, less rain and increased drought are the likely prospect for Australia, according to a new report on climate change which the agriculture minister said read like a "disaster novel".

 The report, by the Bureau of Meteorology and the Commonwealth Scientific and Industrial Research Organisation, found that the world's driest inhabited continent is likely to suffer more extreme temperatures due to climate change.

It said that exceptionally hot years, which once occurred every 20 to 25 years, were more likely to hit every one or two years. And the hotter weather could begin as soon as 2010.

Agriculture Minister Tony Burke said the assessment indicated that the risk of drought would double, as would the area of Australia declared to be in drought.

"Parts of these high level projections read more like a disaster novel than a scientific report," he told reporters.

"What's clear is that the cycle of drought is going to be more regular and deeper than ever."

The report is part of a government review of drought policy.

Prime Minister Kevin Rudd said the report, which found that the area of Australia having an exceptionally hot year could increase from just under five percent to as much as 95 percent, was "very disturbing".

"The analysis shows that the extent and frequency of exceptionally hot years have been increasing rapidly over recent decades and this trend is expected to continue," the report concluded.

Rainfall, which has been falling since the 1950s -- partly due to climate change -- is also likely to decline with southern Australia and the southern island of Tasmania among the worst affected, it said.

 

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