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Offline Nichi

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English Words & the Irish Connection
« on: November 10, 2009, 02:42:59 AM »
Got this in my email from GRosenstock. Pretty darned interesting. It could only relate to slang-isms, but then again, the word "snazzy" is used in the mainstream, eh?

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Re: English Words & the Irish Connection
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2009, 05:34:25 AM »

heh, heh
- "No you couldn't do that!"
- "I have been married for 25 years and it happens that I listen to my wife."  ;D

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Re: English Words & the Irish Connection
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2009, 05:37:23 AM »
Heheh -- yes, he was rather wry!
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Re: English Words & the Irish Connection
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2009, 05:42:04 AM »
Heheh -- yes, he was rather wry!

Do not know wry really? Actually I think that is how it works.
She says something in such a matter and it does not goes to your mental, instead it hit your emotional body, and somewhere deep inside you know that she is right (or at least she has a good point that must be considered seriously).

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Re: English Words & the Irish Connection
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2009, 05:44:06 AM »
Do not know wry really? Actually I think that is how it works.
She says something in such a matter and it does not goes to your mental, instead it hit your emotional body, and somewhere deep inside you know that she is right (or at least a she have a good point that must be considered seriously).

  :)

Ah! You have a blessed connection, then. I love to hear things like that.
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Re: English Words & the Irish Connection
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2009, 05:24:48 AM »
So what about this? I wrote G back and gave my 2 cents that these expressions aren't just "New York Slang".

"Duke it out" ... definitely used down here in the South.

"Snazzy" ... heard it in many many contexts.

To be "in dutch". If I'm not mistaken, I've seen this expression used here in this forum. (?)
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Re: English Words & the Irish Connection
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2009, 06:06:10 AM »

It was a lot of power in that testimony gift from his Irish friend.

Rosenstock? Is that the guy you was associated with some year ago N?

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Re: English Words & the Irish Connection
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2009, 07:04:42 AM »
It was a lot of power in that testimony gift from his Irish friend.

Yes, what a great event!

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Rosenstock? Is that the guy you was associated with some year ago N?

Yes, I wrote him when I had the &quot;Ohonn Ohonnis&quot; dream
"Ohonn Ohonnis" dream, to ask him phonetically what those words could mean in Gaelic.

Even though he believes dreams have "no meaning", he did write me later that in that dream, I had tapped into a few of his images from his Uttering Her Name volume.  He sent me that manuscript and gave me permission to share them, which I did here. There are several poems in the volume which do remind me of the dream, not to mention a few other dreams, so I could see his point. The eternally-unanswered question was, if dreams have no meaning, how could they tap into the universal consciousness, which includes his poetry, thusly?  ;)  What I mean to say here, though, is that the question's unanswered by him: I don't think any of us here would think twice about or be particularly surprised by the summoning connections of dreams.

For him, it's all about Awakening -- and Advaita.  I don't know exactly how he reasons it out -- we didn't go too far in our discussion there. He does occasionally send me some interesting stuff, though.

The Irish language is his passion ... 
« Last Edit: November 11, 2009, 07:09:32 AM by Nichi »
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Re: English Words & the Irish Connection
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2009, 07:20:34 AM »
I was further convinced of an (unconsummated) connection to me, if not to us here in Soma, when I read this one:

Dar Óma
I could cut myself off
from the world of men
but not of crows
I cannot recall a time
not being of the crow nation

the way they fly alone
and assemble
their silence
 a disused well

in the distance
near at hand –
that’s me
the one that’s left behind

brazen in the morning
they rule evening time
painting their shadows on roofs

they hide
practise ventriloquism
expose tail feathers
say <here I am>

I try not to eavesdrop
on their intimate conversations
but am drawn in

Crow -  You see -
battle cry, lullaby, lament,
subtleties of grammar, nuance,
Crow is my first language


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Re: English Words & the Irish Connection
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2009, 07:24:43 AM »
I was further convinced of an (unconsummated) connection to me, if not to us here in Soma, when I read this one:

It's just one of those things, though. There are many in our lifetimes who cross our paths, and who we recognize as kin right down to our bones, but our lives and current tasks keep us separated. No point in the lament .. but it is always fascinating.
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Re: English Words & the Irish Connection
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2009, 11:40:32 AM »
interesting clip - the Irish are so understated. They never seemed to wand to erect cultural memorials.

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Re: English Words & the Irish Connection
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2009, 06:11:56 AM »
interesting clip - the Irish are so understated. They never seemed to wand to erect cultural memorials.

Except to have the drive to become politicians and even presidents of the United States.

 

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