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Re: The Foreign Installation
« Reply #15 on: July 30, 2013, 02:25:48 PM »
Well just so you all know, I gave definite thought to the G before I wrote it. That is all.

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Re: The Foreign Installation
« Reply #16 on: July 30, 2013, 02:31:08 PM »
out of all the things I said, and you guys are talking about a Gnat. heh -.-!

No worries, still a good post. I love this topic.
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Re: The Foreign Installation
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2013, 03:22:13 PM »

endless, I think a good way to get rid of the foreign mind is to withstand The mind so to speak of the unknowable; or the unknowable just lets say.

On this subject somebody told me that the 'predator' is on Earth for about 10,000 years.

I don't know if it's true but I kept the info.

And kinda liked it. (Smiley)  :)

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Re: The Foreign Installation
« Reply #18 on: August 01, 2013, 12:17:07 PM »
Here is a bit Michael once posted to me about The Foreign Installation. I asked him if it was real:

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You mean like BP?

You bet, and it's set up in your lounge room. Owned by the Chinese, designed by the Germans, paid for by your own little soul.

(PS... try being original)

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When a multi-national sets up in your town, you buy the same goods that everyone else in the world buys.

When that extends to TV, you watch the same programs that everyone else in the world watches.

You wear the same clothes, eat the same foods, like the same things and dislike the same things, think and feel the same way - you believe yourself to be unique, but in fact you are simply copying.

You are pawn of a foreign entity - living, breathing and thinking what that entity feeds you. You flatter yourself on your uniqueness, but actually you are a puppet of another's will.

That is how the foreign instillation works. You believe your emotions are unique, while in fact if you only stepped outside yourself for a moment, you would see they are depressingly exactly the same as every human being ... who is asleep.

When you read a question on one forum and reproduce almost exactly word for word on another forum, you are doing the same - you are living a fashion. In this case a fashion of thought. Like wanting to wear Nike joggers, 'because those people are wearing them, I want to wear them also'. It's the cool idea going round.

The foreign instillation demands you toe the line and seek to replicate, thinking you are actually involved in some serious inquiry.

That is why I said "try being original".

Now if they start talking about pizza on another forum, and it becomes a 'hit' over there, and the original question is asked by someone who calls himself a 'nagual' - adding real gravitas - will you pop in here and ask exactly the same question?

I know it's hard to be original, but at least you could turn the idea around in your mind and come at it from a different angle.

Of course we would like to try on the latest fashion, but a little gesture against the most obvious infection of the foreign instillation's command is worthwhile ... like me calling it instillation instead of installation.

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Definitely - it is real all right.

But the practice is to identify when we are experiencing a mood that is not inherent to our innate nature. An experience that is grafted onto us, and which we identify as ourself without question. Much the same way we adopt our parent's response characteristics, thinking they are our own.

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The FI has raised it head again today around me. It does so every day.

I can say, that no matter what I say, no matter what people know intellectually about this 'thing', its hold on the minds and emotions of humanity is unshakable.

I know of no one, aside from myself, who has succeeded in escaping the grip of the FI. There may be people in here, or elsewhere that I know, who have escaped, but I don't for sure about it.

That will give you some idea of what we are up against. Its tentacles permeate every aspect of our lives. But worse than that, despite we may even know intellectually about this trap, in fact, we love the FI like nothing else. We love it more than anything else in our world or life. We cling to it and defend it to our death.

The FI is who we are - it is our identity.

I won't even speak of it's manifestation, because everyone will get upset and defend those traits as essentially human and personal. I give up. All I can do is enjoy the world as I pass through.

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It won't work. No amount of probing will free you from what has been so long installed. It is too clever for that.

When it's shipping out the goods, there is no way you can stop it because you are completely consumed at that point.

Where you have to tackle it is where it has set up its constructs. But recognising those isn't going to help, because they are far too clever.

The only way to deal with it is to counter with repetitive and specific practice. Yes there are some that are very clever practices, but on the whole, it is the combined force of years of practice, until your emotional and mental being become too distasteful for any foreign investment.

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What's the point of lining up endless spooks from every culture and time, and hoping they are all the same? Where does that get us?

What way...? Start by acknowledging that boredom is a withdrawal symptom - the best approach is always cold turkey.

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So here lies a man
who sought to be free
His motto in life
was "I don't agree!"

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I know of no one, aside from myself, who has succeeded in escaping the grip of the FI. There may be people in here, or elsewhere that I know, who have escaped, but I don't for sure about it.

There is a very revealing reason for this. It is almost impossible to know if a person has released themselves from the FI unless you actually live with them. You can't easily tell from a distance or a casual acquaintance.

To the trained eye you can see the embedded constructs in place, so you can make a good guess when it is obvious the FI is alive and well. But as with romance, people are able to put on a good show when connecting to others via the internet or for short periods.

It is amazing how all is revealed once you spend substantial time with another. That is the real test.
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Re: The Foreign Installation
« Reply #19 on: August 01, 2013, 12:40:07 PM »
Also brought over with Michael's permission.
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Re: The Foreign Installation
« Reply #20 on: August 01, 2013, 01:44:10 PM »
This is interesting I posted this at the same time Cherryarc posted on the Matrix. I see the foreign installation not as an alien outside force, but like the Jungian collective unconscious, which affects the whole and we must work to individuate from.

Jung believed the archetypes of the psyche were collective and universal and he is very right about this. And by working with them we could individuate from the whole.

However we still are all connected. That will not change. But seeing the world with new eyes is breaking free of the collective. We do this by doing the work, learning what it is to be wise, working with our dreams, and growing as spiritual beings and evolving from being mere mortal human beings.
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Re: The Foreign Installation
« Reply #21 on: August 01, 2013, 05:34:52 PM »
The best film I have seen on the FI is Lantana. If you watch this film, you will see exactly what the FI is all about.

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Re: The Foreign Installation
« Reply #22 on: August 01, 2013, 05:38:46 PM »
The best film I have seen on the FI is Lantana. If you watch this film, you will see exactly what the FI is all about.

Lantana: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lantana_(film)

One of the characters in the movie, his name is Nik.
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Re: The Foreign Installation
« Reply #23 on: August 01, 2013, 07:06:05 PM »
For the sake of revisiting this theme, and to save me going over stuff, here is a post Nichi found of mine from god knows where back in 2006, but I think it puts the case quite well:


CC talked of these in one of his later books. Those who know anything of the life of CC post fame, have come to be suspicious of these flyers.

i have not personally seen large heavy flying slugs, though I enjoy the image. i was already somewhat along the road by the time i read his flyer stories, and i had not till then formulated this view. but when i read his words, i knew immediately what he was talking about - i hadn’t seen that they too were spirits. and when the idea hit me i jumped for joy that someone else had seen this insidious thing - such a relief!

but what are we to do? this thing whatever you call it has a hold on the mind of humanity.

long time ago a strange people came the land. they were serious and fiery. they had a sacred ceremony where they stood in a circle. then one would step into the middle, with a knife (they worshiped the knife you know) with which that man or woman would proceed to cut themselves while all the others watched in horror and pleasure, as they wallowed in pain and despair. needless to say in their worldly behaviour, they were cruel and ruthless, eventually enslaving the whole land.

they were an evil morbid tribe, who depressed the whole nation - and they set out and sucked of the pain of others, thus creating more, they did harvest.

there existed an earlier DNA group. they were fair and light people who loved laughter and life. they too had a sacred ceremony, where they would all stand in a circle, facing outwards, in complete silence - sometimes for hours. they painted wherever they went, leaving behind the imprint of their minds - they still exist today, though they are a very rare minority, who generally go around in a sad disguise, just to fit in, like living in a rain coat. but underneath they suffer from fits of laughter, or ecstasy.

so eventually these self-inflictors got the upper hand, and made films about themselves, wrote books about themselves, and generally infested the natives.

there is a special breed of ‘concern’ that runs in families. it is extremely powerful, and self-righteous. casting its net of sour lollies, convincing us we are lonely. that was their real coup, when they introduced that one. its been down hill since then, and all the lonely people consume their own maya with anxiety or anger, till they look out those two eyes like frightened hollow logs...

the other grouping, by contrast, love to foster their maya, and praise each other for sporting a fine crop. they would spread their maya in games, especially male female games, which were a great favourite. truly beautiful displays of maya could be enjoyed by everyone.

the interlopers, would also use a special kind of maya, which they projected onto the screen of the mind - projecting the very shape of the heart, this was their subtle weapon - projecting the emotional landscape, describing the ‘text’ of life. but underpinned by a yearning for imaginary worlds, that were held with passionate white knuckled fear. Oh such a juicy drop!

so you could sit on the hills about the town and watch in the old days, as great beams of maya lit the night sky, and explosive maya battles would be watched with wonder and delight. these days the few of us left have learnt the art of perfect deception - not a tortured soul could tell, we learn to walk in perfect imitation, and to whistle in silence.

just drop the whole thing! who cares? let it go, look at the night sky, and open your mouth - stand in wonder. then look back at the self doubt, the slights endured, the sorrows, with a mild sense of bewilderment... fancy, thinking of that all day! what a stupid waste of time.

look out your two eyes - there it is right in front, all about you is your dancing partner.

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and you know the sound that flyers hate most?

laughter

silence baffles them completely

competence gives them indigestion

beauty, even they stand and ponder


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Re: The Foreign Installation
« Reply #24 on: August 01, 2013, 10:40:17 PM »

It's not that I don't like these.. subjects but I find that they create more shades than light.

Maybe it's because of the conscience that I said in my first post.

gnat ,gnu..

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Re: The Foreign Installation
« Reply #25 on: August 01, 2013, 11:35:15 PM »
I too saw the shadow's before they were talked about. The study of them came after CC brought the subject up in his books. I found it hard to give them all the attributes attributed to them.

If I may offer my slightly uncommon view, (the one that I use when it comes to the subject of the foreign installation). The term foreign installation is a little off . For example we know that bacteria exist in the human digestive tract. It is a fundamental component for digestion, arguably then it is better to view the body as a whole as emanations at large, the quasi illusory center of ones bubble of perception.  

Similarly on the level of energy then, the social foreign installation, likewise can/could also be looked at just as a program (an operating system), not so much as something foreign, as in not meant to be there, but simply a modus operandi for the universe to create singularities. Within that singularity then is the programming to consider oneself "the body" and the self "ego" as something separate from the bubble of perception/emanations at large.

Then within the static frame explanation I described in the "egypt" thread. Each static frame has material and energetic components unique to each moment in time.  As a beings energy rises,  
 with it comes an accompanying world view, the "foreign installation/social programing" fades as a new programming upgrade sees the old programing as just that. Then within the static frames, flyers faze out of the vibrational field/energetic matrix of the new higher radiant makeup of the new transformed being.

A natural metamorphosis, for humans. Nothing really foreign, just something to mutate, use. It is my belief that a fearful description is not needed and may even be harmful.



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Re: The Foreign Installation
« Reply #26 on: August 02, 2013, 12:30:32 AM »
I too saw the shadow's before they were talked about. The study of them came after CC brought the subject up in his books. I found it hard to give them all the attributes attributed to them.

If I may offer my slightly uncommon view, (the one that I use when it comes to the subject of the foreign installation). The term foreign installation is a little off . For example we know that bacteria exist in the human digestive tract. It is a fundamental component for digestion, arguably then it is better to view the body as a whole as emanations at large, the quasi illusory center of ones bubble of perception. 

Similarly on the level of energy then, the social foreign installation, likewise can/could also be looked at just as a program (an operating system), not so much as something foreign, as in not meant to be there, but simply a modus operandi for the universe to create singularities. Within that singularity then is the programming to consider oneself "the body" and the self "ego" as something separate from the bubble of perception/emanations at large.

Then within the static frame explanation I described in the "egypt" thread. Each static frame has material and energetic components unique to each moment in time.  As a beings energy rises, 
 with it comes an accompanying world view, the "foreign installation/social programing" fades as a new programming upgrade sees the old programing as just that. Then within the static frames, flyers faze out of the vibrational field/energetic matrix of the new higher radiant makeup of the new transformed being.

A natural metamorphosis, for humans. Nothing really foreign, just something to mutate, use. It is my belief that a fearful description is not needed and may even be harmful. -

I agree with that.

http://www.anogi.gr/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/AETOS.1.jpeg

A pic I found-.

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Re: The Foreign Installation
« Reply #27 on: August 02, 2013, 07:15:08 AM »
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i have not personally seen large heavy flying slugs, though I enjoy the image. i was already somewhat along the road by the time i read his flyer stories, and i had not till then formulated this view. but when i read his words, i knew immediately what he was talking about - i hadn’t seen that they too were spirits. and when the idea hit me i jumped for joy that someone else had seen this insidious thing - such a relief!

I have actually seen them before, I saw them in a dream state, They dispatch from a large grey cloud and are very much like large black slugs. They whip though the air and create a warm fuzzy feeling when they land on you, mostly in the head and neck area. In this dream state it was an exact duplicate of the real world except I could not move my body, It was pinned down. As I thought about what they were and got just a little worried at all, they would shoot from the cloud and attach to me, I woke up saying, "there is nothing here for you" and eventually I felt it leave. I might make a picture on photoshop for every one.


I was also going to quote something else from the same post, but I forget what it was.

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Re: The Foreign Installation
« Reply #28 on: August 02, 2013, 08:29:04 AM »
I am interested in perspectives , like lenses , considering things like , don iuan saying , " we must close your gap" to carlos ,
Travelling in the stream .
Sure i have seen things too , so i ask things like , what does a
Flyer look like , which seems to turn out the vaguest or most repetitive borrowed renditions.

I have seen beings of different forms within the room i slept from
A dreaming , and different , thats why i asked , which ones ?

And yet ......
I do still not eish to pursue that information , and even find that thinking
Backwards ,
Like if they even are real thrn no time to be pissing around with it ,
Just move into the light so to speak and get on with it not captured by fear although they can be frightening experiences.

Because i know something else and it is more
Valuable ,
Good dreams never came
Really from poor states ,

And rarely the reverse true also,

Except in the light of opportunities given .

And lulls can also brings some of
The great upswings ,

There is something else about a middle state ,
But i cant seem to think it right now to speak it .

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Re: The Foreign Installation
« Reply #29 on: August 02, 2013, 09:22:53 AM »
I believe that if you can overcome the flyers you have accomplished awareness. When don juan was training carlos, I don't believe that there is such things as right handed and left handed awareness, I believe he was simply working with the flyers mind and slowly trying to remove it from him, until finally he gave him awareness of it and removed it, then he could finally see. There was a lot of secrets Don jaun could not tell carlos, simply because if he knew, he wouldnt have been able to receive the training properly. Even though Don Jauns teachings were far out and rigorous, His secrets are the most powerful information. You have to give thought to something, you have to ponder it if your ever going to figure it out. Developing awareness that has to do with the flyers I think is very important.