Topic: DeMello

[nichi]

To a distressed person who came to him for help the Master said, "Do you
really want a cure"

"If I did not, would I bother to come to you?"

"Oh yes. Most people do."

"What for?"

"Not for a cure. That's painful. For relief."

To his disciples the Master said, "People who want a cure, provided they
can have it without pain, are like those who favor progress, provided they
can have it without change."


Anthony de Mello, S.J.

[nichi]

In keeping with his doctrine that nothing be taken too seriously, not even
his own teachings, the Master loved to tell this story on himself:

"My very first disciple was so weak that the exercises killed him. My second disciple drove himself crazy from his earnest practice of the exercises I gave him. My third disciple dulled his intellect through too much contemplation. But the fourth managed to keep his sanity."

"Why was that?" someone would invariably ask.

"Possibly because he was the only one who refused to do the exercises."
The Master's words would be drowned in howls of laughter.


Anthony de Mello, SJ
 

[nichi]

A zealous disciple expressed a desire to teach others the Truth and asked
the Master what he thought about this. The Master said, "Wait."

Each year the disciple would return with the same request and each time the Master would give him the same reply: "Wait."

One day he said to the Master, "When will I be ready to teach?"

Said the Master, "When your excessive eagerness to teach has left you."



Anthony de Mello, SJ

[nichi]

To a disciple who strained after Enlightenment till he became physically weak the Master said, "A ray of light can be grasped -- but not with your hands.  Enlightenment can be attained -- but not by your efforts."

The puzzled disciple said, "But did you not tell me to strive to become empty?  That is what I am attempting to do."

"So now you are full of effort to be empty!" said the Master through his
laughter.



Anthony de Mello, SJ

[erik]

 

[tommy2]

A zealous disciple expressed a desire to teach others the Truth and asked
the Master what he thought about this. The Master said, "Wait."

Each year the disciple would return with the same request and each time the Master would give him the same reply: "Wait."

One day he said to the Master, "When will I be ready to teach?"

Said the Master, "When your excessive eagerness to teach has left you."



Anthony de Mello, SJ

I think this is what I am just now learning through viewing my own actions changing slowly over the last year or two.  It's almost like, "Who cares?"  Don't we all have to find our own true path by ourselves, anyway, irregardless of what we think we have "learned" from others?

Do the so-called lessons which I try to pass on to others really mean a fig?  Are my so-called students really just those who are fascinated by all I do for a while and then drift off?

So it seems.  I slowly come to think that I have been bullshitting myself all these years and have nothing to offer but myself to myself.

Who will long remember when I pass this earthplane, anyway?  A few for a little while, then they go on to more pleasant memories, like I do with my own loved ones who pass.

Ho hum.  Life goes on inside my fantasy.

Or have I just been working too many hours lately?

ha.

[Jahn]

Don Juan said that he and Don Genaro were about to leave this earth life and that made me feel uneasy and worried.
"Then we will be what we always have been - the dust on the road, he said. And you better watch up, because one day we might blow right up in your eyes."

Free remembering.

[tommy2]

Say more.

[Jahn]

Who will long remember when I pass this earthplane, anyway?  A few for a little while, then they go on to more pleasant memories, like I do with my own loved ones who pass.

Ho hum.  Life goes on inside my fantasy.

Or have I just been working too many hours lately?

ha.

If you said "Life goes on in my imagination" you would have put it more to what it actually is, the Dream of the Dreamer (but I know we have been through that idea and you're not fond of it). Anyway, One critical point on the path is when we achieve such momentum as "self-generating", before this is possible to any greater extent we must have "self-rememberance".

To remember self inculdes its many forms, but that is a sidetrack, the important thing is to remember the energy of the essential self . Don Juan and Don Genaro held a significant postion in Carlos life and transformation. What Don Juan says is that even as dead, in another form, he and Don Genaro would be able to be in touch. That possibility makes us connected, connected beyond the present form and context.

[tommy2]

Fantasy and imagination are in the same book to me, just in different chapters.  Fantasy interjects maybe the unrealistic hope from being not too content, not knowing this connection you allude to.  NOw that I think about it, fantasy wasn't what I really meant to use.  My brains' been super tired lately from the changes in my work routine.  Have never trained someone to do my job and maybe different brainwaves are being stressed, tiring me.  Not working only 3 days at a time anymore.   Try 9 - 10. 

Anyway, wish me happy birthday.  I hit the big 6 0   today.   

tom

[erik]

Happy birthday, Tom!

[tommy2]

Thanx, man. t

[Jennifer-]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!!!!!

 

[nichi]

Happy B'Day, T!!

(((((((((((((((you))))))))))))))))

[niamhspark]

Happy Birthday Tommy!!!