Topic: *Egypt

[Kal]

it's not about that Michael.

[Michael]

Michael, can you oblige a dead dog to sit up and dance ?

No Nik, I can't. There does have to be a spark there to fan.

But I will say, you can't always know if the spark exists - for that, one has to wait.

[Michael]

it's not about that Michael.

It is always about 'that' Nik, no matter what anyone thinks or feels.
Complacency is the condition I have set up this forum to challenge, and that challenge lies behind every one of my posts on this forum.

You may think the conversation is about something else, but it never is, no matter where you are.

[Kal]

It is always about 'that' Nik, no matter what anyone thinks or feels.
Complacency is the condition I have set up this forum to challenge, and that challenge lies behind every one of my posts on this forum.

You may think the conversation is about something else, but it never is, no matter where you are.

I thought we were having a conversation .

Nick

[Michael]

I thought we were having a conversation .

Nick

Perhaps I should try to explain something Nik.
Nemo is not a novice - he is what I term an 'operator'. Meaning he has progressed passed a certain threshold on the path, and is able to 'operate' as a seer in the world. What I am having with him, is a technical discussion about certain aspects of view.

You Nik, are a novice. You are looking for a pleasant conversation - for you, love means friendship and cordiality. For those who have committed to the path of spirit, love has a very different meaning that you are yet to comprehend.

One of the first things beginners have to develop on this path, is the ability to recentre themselves on a new level of tension. It's called tone. To progress on this path, we have to be able to sustain ourselves, in a very relaxed way, within a field of tension that is necessary for generating a special kind of energy, essential for spiritual realisations. Much of the path of spirit, is knowing how to sustain the generation of that special kind of energy.

[Kal]

Perhaps I should try to explain something Nik.
Nemo is not a novice - he is what I term an 'operator'. Meaning he has progressed passed a certain threshold on the path, and is able to 'operate' as a seer in the world. What I am having with him, is a technical discussion about certain aspects of view.

You Nik, are a novice. You are looking for a pleasant conversation - for you, love means friendship and cordiality. For those who have committed to the path of spirit, love has a very different meaning that you are yet to comprehend.

One of the first things beginners have to develop on this path, is the ability to recentre themselves on a new level of tension. It's called tone. To progress on this path, we have to be able to sustain ourselves, in a very relaxed way, within a field of tension that is necessary for generating a special kind of energy, essential for spiritual realisations. Much of the path of spirit, is knowing how to sustain the generation of that special kind of energy.

You make me laugh Michael.

You 're such an idiot.

Your seeing is totally off.

Ha ha ha ...

Blessings 

[Michael]

Come on Nik, you can do better than that.
Don't resort to slogans, make an effort - articulate what is on your mind.

Let me give you a hand: describe what you are feeling from this thread.

[Kal]

Come on Nik, you can do better than that.
Don't resort to slogans, make an effort - articulate what is on your mind.

Let me give you a hand: describe what you are feeling from this thread.

Why you battle and resist?



Ok, I 'll give it a try, but be patient.

[Kal]

What I see, is you acting as a bully.

[Michael]

What I see, is you acting as a bully.

That's not really a feeling Nik, but I think we get the picture of how you feel, except for one thing...

Can I ask I ask you a question:

Do you laugh at yourself any...time?

Yes, in short. Much to the annoyance of my friends, I find my self, and everyone's self, a source of great mirth. I say to the annoyance of my friends, because I was born with a Monty Python sense of humour, which, for some strange reason, is not shared by most of the world. In other words I laugh at absurdity, of myself and the world. But what I don't find a source of great mirth, is my intent.

What you call a bully, is actually your contact with my intent. And I can assure you, that is a rare thing, because a forum like this is one of the few places I ever allow people to see my intent. And you are being generous to call it a 'bully' - I wouldn't use such a tame word for it.

So let me ask you a question now Nik. I know you have spoken of that lofty, nebulous concept of freedom in which we all indulge, but really, in prosaic terms, what do you want from life? In your heart, what kind of things do you long for? I know about your relationship with a partner, which is fine, but even with a partner, you have to do something, go somewhere, become something etc - you can't just sit facing each other. It has to be a partnership towards something. What direction is your desire for this life?

[Kal]

I 'm sorry Michael, this is not a thread about me, nor will I share information about me here.

What do you want to know, and for why really?

[nemo]

I have visuals for this in my seeing more than words can do justice for. The mind creates linear sequencing, and actually actively defends the functional programming inherent in the first attention somewhat illusionary material world.  So to look at an object there is an observer and then a force that agglutinates the object into position. The object and the observer are part of the total equation that makes up the event. That event is a static mathematical constant, in time, relative and unique to the observer.

If the observer is sharing it's immediate area within its bubble of perception with another energy producing entity they will spin a reality   that merge what is observed. Like in the video below shows to some extent that everything is in a super position. earth included. What draws something into a particular position, is the intent of the observer.

This amazing moment in time, is generally made to be missed by the first attention on purpose, because that is the reason for the first attention. Now Michaels forum here has an energetic makeup that puts pressure on the first attention to expand/move away from what DJ called the dimple, by putting pressure on an entity to move away from it's comfort zone, in so doing new emanations will become aligned  away from the dimple. (comfort zone). If this is done in a way that alienates, then the dimple position is reinforced.  

This is the function of a teacher, in my case i have no interest in being the type of teacher that put pressure on someone. This is what i meant when said i have no interest that kind of arrangement, and as can be observed in the last posts between Nick and Michael. Michaels offerings need to be correct, to have the power to move someones AP and not seeing someone absolutely will be seen as incorrect by the receiver negating the power.

Anyway back to the importance of the observer, in any moment in time, relative to super positioning of any object including earth is the makeup of that one particular observer. Their choices there power, history and so on.  There is no world at large only AP positions.    



http://youtu.be/D1ezNvpFcJU

Michael said:
Nemo is not a novice - he is what I term an 'operator'. Meaning he has progressed passed a certain threshold on the path, and is able to 'operate' as a seer in the world. What I am having with him, is a technical discussion about certain aspects of view.

Keep it technical Michael.

Nickosv said:
In my view guidance is everywhere on the path, but not always ...uh visible / available.

My teacher has been the spirit and the books by CC.

[nemo]

The Art of Dreaming: Intending in the second attention

She linked her arm with mine, and we reached the park in silence. It was not at all a
forced silence. But my mind was running in circles. How strange, I thought; only a while
ago I had walked with don Juan from the park to the church, in the midst of the most
terrifying normal fear. Now I was walking back from the church to the park with the
object of my fear, and I was more terrified than ever, but in a different, more mature,
more deadly manner.
To fend off my worries, I began to look around. If this was a dream, as I believed it was,
there was a way to prove or disprove it. I pointed my finger at the houses, at the church,
at the pavement in the street. I pointed at people. I pointed at every thing. Daringly, I
even grabbed a couple of people, whom I seemed to scare considerably. I felt their mass.
They were as real as anything I consider real, except that they did not generate energy.
Nothing in that town generated energy Everything seemed real and normal, yet it was a
dream.
I turned to the woman, who was holding on to my arm, and questioned her about it.
"We are dreaming," she said in her raspy voice and giggled.
"But how can people and things around us to be so real, so three-dimensional?"
"The mystery of intending in the second attention!" she exclaimed reverently. "Those
people out there are so real that they even have thoughts."

Intending in the second attention, spinning a reality. First attention also spins a reality, and it has rules and functionality. The problem with the intent of both attentions is that they are limited jurisdictions. The reason I bring this up is that the tenant took items from this world and projected it into the second attention, to make her world.

With a mass of energy producing beings, there is the ability to make a very real and solid reality . To make this reality less real, and more energetic, we require an integration of the energetic second attention intensity, and the material first attention solidity. Intending knowingly with these two aspects in balance, we can move AP's down suitable timelines, and match positions with others of the same intent. =  Mass

 

[Kal]

Michael, have you banned anyone from this site ever.

Your theories with Nemo is just not my plate, so I can't contribute with question or insight.

One thing I study here is using the syntax properly,

Language.

P.S. This adventure operation we just had is indeed my plate.

 

[Kal]

So, what my word was that I see you acting as a bully was a contact with your intent.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfhGEPiwRJk

One question I had was if your vision -to use a word- of -your for the case- intent is something like your 'property'.

I know fishes like maneuvers but because I have a different idea and approach to intent and what it really is.

there is. ( . my question)





P.S. I hope I 'm clear in this. I just wonder if your intent is considered by you something like a property.

P.S.S. Then I fall back in the loop that fishes like maneuvers.

 )(  lol