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[runningstream]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pir_%28Sufism%29

[runningstream]

have got the words here ?

please continue




walking along i was listening

what i said was this


irrespectively


why do i feel so tired and lost

i wan't to go back to work


i says

because when you go back to work you don't have to think

you don't have to look at your life


and so you go numb again


when you listen and you feel lost it is because you can hear



so what now then ?



well sure nature can heal


the path is unfolding though


what does this being want ? healing

of this path



invigoration ?


totality !



and how does this come about ?



alignment


what does this mean ?



as carlos said



the outside emanations match those inside the cocoon



how is this accomplished ?



we could say it was accomplished standing on our heads and empty


or we could say this is accomplished whilst functional




and how is this accomplished whilst still functional ?



i would have to assume it is the perfection of dzogchen


because the rainbow would involve the entirity of ourselves



and what would happen to merge with that immensity whilst functional ?



if the fragments would heal themselves through the process of fire


what would be left ?



i am sure that question beyond and afterwards depends


on the consistency although having done so would not lessen the experience


the effect of that union would perhaps be equal


yet not equally potent




and emptiness would be a prerequisite to emptiness



yet are we speaking of emptiness ? actually





i am just combining discussions in the interview format


excuse the combined ponderings




experience into answer


what is truth ? and what is truth functional


 

[runningstream]

very rainy again
spiders look for high ground
things biting
Flying ants too
Things squeaking and croaking
Out from their holiday sleep
a
Very loud choir
The dogs don't know what to
Make of it either

They look for the creatures which seek the high ground
Under cars
Even the ants moving into cars
The solar not charging
the driveway is a creek
its a different time
With a lot of things floating into the air
memories
Whirling around
tugging different directons

uncertainty

a
Hand reaching to show with a poker face

Shall old cards be retreived
the unconscious seem to not take the moments pause

And would run of the nearest cliff with blinkers on

Something else

Long term aquaintances seem to have finally settled into some centering

Like their bodies reacting to their own knowing of self center

Others wading to the edge of their own wake

Trying to stop the turbulence in the stream

At least they take there moments pause

Even a few breaths and a re assessment

the stream

The branch being held across and the possibility

to break away from the exhaustion towards the other direction

the size of the stroke

as with cents looking after the dollars

Small moments making hillclimbs combined

learning new strokes

a new kayak a new paddle

fast stream that brings debri or tide faster

[Michael]

because when you go back to work you don't have to think

you don't have to look at your life

Absolutely correct. And the path requires we tether our donkey first, then go follow Mohamed, as the Sufis say.

Spirituality should never be used as a substitute for effective power in the world. This is a common mistake, and also a very common experience. Almost everyone here will have spent time in that error, where we sought to feel better about ourselves when vulnerable and powerless in outer life, by priding ourselves on being more spiritual than everyone else.

The danger is, aside from confusing ego for spirituality, that the insights we gain during such a phase are ultimately useless. We have to approach the path of personal development, firstly through our effectiveness in the outer world, and only then from that platform, to reflect back upon ourselves. Because we can only know ourself through the consequences we see reflected back upon us from our actions in the world.

[runningstream]

i am fortunate that i am functional and grateful

we are all unique

i like to write about function with knowledge written through the waters

reflections

that quote was in reply to Sophias voice she is dreaming of the water too

she says she/we are helping people with the water

my rib that returned to me

it is funny where sayings and things come from


i do not feel comfortable with the word ego

i do like Don Juans term just right tonal


the reason being that i have witnessed peoples attitudes towards that separation

and i am not personally interested in them


although i can also see why they would be so concerned with individuals dilemmas also

to the point of labelling it



my personal and singular concern with it right now is like

Don Juan saying both he and silvio had no real volition to do anything so most of the time they just did nothing



personally this is the opposite of myself


i am all volition


i see that just right tonal as the base for this fire


and its reflection casting upon the water



even survival comes into it


yet even that must be through a balance



being led as mohamed and the donkey


is spirit taking the lead


and the just right tonal listening


the two sides merged


three



i am not so sure every body has reached the same conclusions

nor even speaking about the same things



speaking of experience is definitely different than mirrored words which were read


and spoken outwards


not those which had come inwards from experience looking out and growing alongside  that's true

[runningstream]

i will give an example of a just right tonal


one that utilises spirit in every day life


and has not made the separation



applying it seems the most natural thing in the world

one day they are told that it is unnatural


a splice in connectivity occurs



perhaps it was necessary for teaching

so it was separated


now it comes time to apply

it



in applying it finding separation in the eyes

a miosis occurs



regenerating the issue and

patching the wiring back together

now the connection comes good again


what was always there now exists functionally


although another dimension is brought to the eyes


being made aware of two


to bring light to three



having not severed one from two in the first place



as would be suggested by some


two is a natural component and although some damage occured

in the initial severance


neither has one been severed


as it is also a natural state



when two and even three enters the equation



neither is seen as of less function


nor as less/more separate or of less virtue


if somebody were to point and say why is one speaking of two ?


one two and three would see no point to the excercise


as neither was held as would be evident in the doing



and in fact it may be the one pointing who found issue with it in their own separation



certainly one who found no separation themselves truly


could not be ever made to make the separation within them selves again


only duplication in other spheres

[Jahn]

Absolutely correct. And the path requires we tether our donkey first, then go follow Mohamed, as the Sufis say.

Spirituality should never be used as a substitute for effective power in the world. This is a common mistake, and also a very common experience. Almost everyone here will have spent time in that error, where we sought to feel better about ourselves when vulnerable and powerless in outer life, by priding ourselves on being more spiritual than everyone else.

For some time (a few decades) I thought that being spiritual, and a way to be better than regular folks, was equal to being poor. Money and surplus was a "bad input" in my spiritual World, automatical distorting the fine vibrations between me and the Source.

The more powerful I became (in this world) the more money I got. And then we had this lesson in Toltec Mystery School about the inventory, and my inventory said that: poorness was equal to spirituality, which is of course wrong, in the sense that poorness equal nothing at all except that you are poor.

the Master also said - get to the high circles in your meditation but be sure that you bring down your experiences from "up there" into your Tonal. If you only "Go up" and don't bring it all down - Your meditations will be useless, for You - and for the Universe.

So bring into form on Earth - your spirituality - that is what Michael, and all the teachers in this party says.

And I enjoy to be, if not rich, but at least to have not to worry about the next bill.

[runningstream]

howdy Jahn

i bring it down too i reach up

everything comes alive as you say

we birth


I was telling Michael about this mirror world here and

those reflections in my dream


he mentioned it was like schroedingers cat

and said something about stay away from it



although i think that was in response to being sandwiched between the mirrors and powerless



i cant find the beginning if i press my foot in the sand


so its a circle



i can open the sky


and i am aware of the change of color that arrives



that is what i am going to do now


open the sky and let that come in for the earth

[runningstream]

get ready 

[runningstream]

its a bizarre enterprise

so i chopped a tree down of course

it was down to the stump then i cut that too

i have'nt used a chainsaw for a while being in the tropics

then there was this korean thing


the seth rogan movie

and the movie we had watched as a coiincidence

olympus down or something

the koreans took the white house


then the fence got heightened on the news

funny because we had a fence put up today too

everything comes in place

and i got the plates

there was a fire in the distance today

and we went for a drive today

its hot again

after a while i just wanted for nothing

just the moments pause

i actually walked into a mouse half eaten on the couch with its head bitten off

i suppose a snake would eat the whole thing

so i suppose its some other critter

quite gruesome like

and australia and the world has gone a little turbo lately

its a bit of a worry i suppose

i met someone in my dream

then he showed up

its a bit of a worry sometimes seeing aspects

they are'nt always exact

sometimes potential representations

walking on lightbeams

i wanted for the silence

i wanted for the strings that tug to be

outside of these things

things are speeding up

or lining up

seers is a funny word because it means they could trust what they see

and i trust what i see

at the same time i don't trust what i see

[runningstream]

something building again


i am deconstructing

thought i would sell some things

i will give many away instead


gaining them and selling them almost felt the same

a hard chore


after all it was having them that was the weight


so ill drop the weight


things feel building up


watching how the mind works

watching how the heart works


watching how the legs work


feeling songs


listening


when the songs meet the road


can't find it looking


depends where your looking


went for dinner just because


fish battered salad and chips some pasta salad and some colslaw



the moon was a slither

a hilltop is on fire its been three days


no one seems to notice or care


they are so used to seeing fire



it glows in the darkness


yes thats what it was


looking elsewhere finding it

because it was never in the same place



the moonlit in the day time



the transparent type film appearing on like a slithery angle to perception

it arrived like an interesting glow


the hilltop fire

was different i am sure



yet perhaps the go together those two



the fire and the moon


both wont sit still


one meets the other



like the sky and the earth




its time again


maybe it is a solstice



dropping  the lot on the ground taking only what new like perrenials



new garden coming up

[runningstream]

for a few nights some clarity

whispering great and clear insight relating to things

everything seems clear

i wake and try to apply the clarity

i find getting swept into swirling currents

does no one else wish to be clear of it ?

i dreamed the planets were so close in the sky

the moon was in front of one

passing before it

so close that i could see the outlines of continents of shapes on the surface


i pointed it out to another with me

there were three in orbit total including the moon passing in front of so close in the sky

then i was at a place with a few people

the person with me was acting quite a childish fool

as i tried to keep it together myself

like observing somebody who was still learning many things

next the greyish man had a workshop

he fixed cars i never expected he would have a workshop like that

always speaking in different light s when  i heard it

so practical

there were a lot of people around it was a block of land with a high

weight bearing step up wall or something like that


the other people seemed comfortable and aware of the company and each had aquired a formal fitting in

i felt like a newbie

and just spoke and got a feeling for the normalness of the situation

in dreaming

the clarity and the dream which was not so different from waking

i wondered whos dream it was but i am sure it was some shared dream that every body was used to


like the beginning or difficulty was long out of sight


feeling each other out

and the clarity of those other ones was quite unique

a lot of sense could come from them

[runningstream]

ill wander out and cut some grass

it gets up my nose the grass fragrance

makes me sneeze my brains out like a fuzzy headed goose


there were over twenty cows standing there

some calves


they are from somewhere else visting no doubt


like i feel i am now too

visiting


ill grab a few things


who knew a holiday could be so draining and tiresome

i dream now of something which is a litter easier


and more comfortable for others


a little outside their comfortable hoop


but not so much so that it causes distress


i like to watch the direction of the eyes shift and hold a new dream


the old drift into the background



their comfort holds some advantages


its a compromise


the escape from the old has its advantages too


two hands full of the clock


times money and moneys time


they set it up that way


it can be hard without it


harsh and exposed

long hill climbs


the more you hold the weight


the more the weight something held might help



things spring up from seeds like the end of the coconut tree we cut down


she says here

son kept the end of a blade like frond


it contains many many seeds


i say i thought they came from the coconut itself those trees


as you water them they sprout from that nut too


sometimes one description seems complete as it holds a direction



sometimes another direction presents itself and works too even holding water "truth" too


sometimes those two branches have to drink the water together together


and find a common root i suppose


if they find them selves on common ground


where one truth can compliment another


something old gets in the way


something grows on the compost


winding the twirling currents in the light



hold them steady if the light dream seems worth it


common purpose



the generator has ran out of fuel now


the fridge is done


i am done here too


boss goes to a new place tomorrow



a few days is all it takes and things take over what was held as this dream



the cows have just walked in from somewhere else


the rats i can smell they have been about


water is every where puddling up


the creek will take it all away


even the mango trees have grown  quite a few inches in a few days


how can the clarity pervade the dream

you get used to having one eye on things



even a stone was sitting in the longened grass for me to bash into


the wilderness easily claims what was once clear


i did long for the wilderness too


and for a healthy routine


one that allowed for a balance for a man to be part tame


somehow we wandered those lines through the dream



we have driven the growth in other directions



tangling ourselves amoungst it



the woman hold a balance too



she knows many things



like the other planets



her truth is equally invaluable for us




calming


she needs something too



i can see it in her eyes



how far have we wandered

[runningstream]

do people find a taste shift towards christmas

like poultry

does turkey taste better

what about prawns over here

was it 260 000 000 chickens eaten this year

a englishmen says



what about time

when appearing to be working

does it make you feel getting up earlier feels right


a man says " i get bored sitting around home"

i says " you need to excercise your imagination"



some poultry farmers use artificial insemination


i went and did work for two missionaries today


i blessed them both


i like sleep



i have always liked sleep


there was a movie about a man who could time travel


he went back to change segments of his life


an excellent movie


he was an englishman


he had an american wife


his family seemed wonderful


the sister a riot



full of kisses and cuddles



i never advertised a fight before


i would come by myself in the silence


talking was for small puppies


big ol sushi likes to feel comfortable about her size


i can assure you it seems better that i remain insane


god knows those i bless don't need know a thing

[Michael]

I definitely feel better getting up early when I've had eight hours sleep - not more or less, and the earlier the better.
Unfortunately, that happens rarely, as I love staying up late, often not hitting the pillow until two or three in the morning - I pride myself that at least in my old age I don't stay up until 4:30am like I used to.

Runningstream, the question I wish to ask, is how fast do you want to progress on this path? Are you happy with your rate of progress, or would you prefer it faster or slower?