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« Reply #105 on: April 05, 2013, 06:56:50 AM »
Nickosv, cool  ;D
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« Reply #106 on: April 05, 2013, 07:36:47 AM »

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« Reply #107 on: April 05, 2013, 09:20:34 AM »
I would imagine this , as an inner and outer became a unified field of liQuid
Motion possibilities become apparent , in that state i would question a solid earth , ap , me etc , and in that state of existing and merging ( or closely aligning to finer being ) new possibility enters with ability to stive move and create

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« Reply #108 on: April 05, 2013, 09:36:43 AM »
Or like this , listenng to a sound resonance overlay another , the color fills the linear space incorporate a different range , as
The overlay occurs within range of perception and beyond immediate , The possibility of
the existing dream to mutate phenomenally is available .

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« Reply #109 on: April 06, 2013, 04:00:29 AM »
Or like this , listenng to a sound resonance overlay another , the color fills the linear space incorporate a different range , as
The overlay occurs within range of perception and beyond immediate , The possibility of
the existing dream to mutate phenomenally is available .

Exactly runningstream. You seem to have grasped the leitmotif of this thread.
In essence, in whichever way you deem, all limitations can be superseded. Once you have grasped the essence of infinity, you have a framework for the unlimited.

Seeing as I asked nemo for an image, here is mine for the symbol of 'anything-is-possible', remembering He even brought the sun itself to its knees:

Anjaneya (my current diety)


Now, the question remains, how can we bridge from our personal situation, to that of our unlimited potential?

It's over to Captain Nemo to chart the steps whereby we can become our unclaimed inheritance.

I am most curious as to this next phase of the sequence we have been pursuing: that we have the theoretical under-writ, what are the steps towards it's fulfilment?

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« Reply #110 on: April 06, 2013, 05:54:46 AM »
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It's over to Captain Nemo to chart the steps whereby we can become our unclaimed inheritance.

It's not that I can't give a how to, my intent was to make another view available. How to's are more in the realm of teaching, and teachers must establish an energetic relationship that is not my cup of tea. Just sayin...





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« Reply #111 on: April 06, 2013, 10:44:36 AM »
I am most curious as to this next phase of the sequence we have been pursuing: that we have the theoretical under-writ, what are the steps towards it's fulfilment?

steps... don Juan said there 're no steps.

Anyhow, I believe in miracles and recently I believe somehow in external help, be it by a goddess would be one perfect scenario ..

Good will.....

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« Reply #113 on: April 06, 2013, 01:43:16 PM »
This may be helpful in understanding the benefit of this view I am presenting. In linear time every adjacent frame is going to look pretty much like the frame before it, and bringing a long history of beliefs along for the ride cements the past into the frames that are about to be entered.

Utilizing infinity and moving out of linear time would allow the next frames to move away from the dominance of beliefs held in linear time. So talking infinite possibilities surrounding you at every moment the next frame you move into could draw on infinity and change your experience even in small ways.

Example:You are sitting in your favourite spot and a mosquito comes along, as the mosquito flies around you it is moving through your frames of time, and is part of your experience. Being the center of your frame, and connected to infinity, there must be a frame that is exactly the same minus the mosquito.

Drawing things into your experience would be the same process. About bringing the sun to its knees, and moving mountains, all these things are in static frames within infinity, out of linear time, in my view.

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« Reply #114 on: April 06, 2013, 02:18:21 PM »
All that is not based on truth shall crumble and fall, much that crumbles and falls was once truth --- nemo

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Re: *Egypt
« Reply #115 on: April 06, 2013, 02:21:33 PM »


Example:You are sitting in your favourite spot and a mosquito comes along, as the mosquito flies around you it is moving through your frames of time, and is part of your experience. Being the center of your frame, and connected to infinity, there must be a frame that is exactly the same minus the mosquito.



I understand this.

The out of linear time in your last sentence just gives me a sense of a loss... due to -I think though- how my brain functions / my uh... oh well, 'time' works .....

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I liked the idea of the complete being, which I would pursue for Michael's inquiry.

Maybe my words at this assemblaged experience I 'm on would be a connected-being.

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Re: *Egypt only time
« Reply #116 on: April 06, 2013, 02:23:41 PM »

http://youtu.be/7wfYIMyS_dI

I wanted to post Enya as well, but did the more classic one of the smooth operator.

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Re: *Egypt only time
« Reply #117 on: April 06, 2013, 02:52:53 PM »
I wanted to post Enya as well, but did the more classic one of the smooth operator.

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It came to me after i listened to your link Nickosv cool  ;) efcharisto
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Re: *Egypt
« Reply #118 on: April 06, 2013, 05:53:13 PM »
It's not that I can't give a how to, my intent was to make another view available.

Alas, as I suspected.
DJ said there were no steps Nik? That's news to me, seeing as CC's 2nd an 3rd books were devoted almost exclusively to steps. Toletc is a methodist tradition far beyond any, even Buddhism.

During my reading of CCs material, I came to realise there were two directions you could take with this material.

1. You could simply jump to believing all the fabulousity and tantalising stories of magic and far-out experiences from your armchair - sitting there doing nothing and believing all you have to do is adopt the identity of a sorcerer. "It's already all here, I don't need to do anything, I'm already everything I want to be."

Or as Nemo put it:
in my view freedom is not around the corner somewhere, or in some deep recess of dreaming. It is up close and personal, so in answer to you statement Michael, I do not have to be anything.

This is why I have previously spoken out about a number of Yuku forums, because they are filled with impotent, lazy, sorcerers-in-capes, talking as if they magical mysterious beings, when in fact all they are is naughty boys.

I realised that direction did not lead to the double. All it led to is a trap of fantasy.


2. You could focus on those 2nd and 3rd CC books and only hen peck the rest for further pragmatic tasks, and do it the hard way: by consistent, clever and difficult effort over a very long period of time. This is why I called my book, Spiritual Development the Hard Way. Forgetting about all the fabulous visions, either in books or those you have personally, and devote yourself to practice: practice, practice, practice.

I took the second direction, because I was ultimately serious about my incredible opportunity of life. I knew nothing of worth came without very hard work.

What I discovered along the way, was that my realisations of the nature of time, earth, existence and infinity were completely different to what I would have adopted had I taken the first direction. That is why I don't like talking about all those superlative concepts.

Nemo, you have taken the first direction and your visions of how existence is set up is sheer fantasy. You sit in your hermit cave and believe yourself to be a fabulous magician. Try this: look up tomorrow's weather. If it says a fine, warm, sunny day, switch your 'frame' and make it a dark, cold, raining day - or visa versa. If you can do this consistently, to assure yourself you are not claiming skill on the basis of chance, then try the next task: choose a frame where you are not in your own country, but are standing in front of me in my country, as you initially wanted to do. If you succeed, I'll eat my hat.

These things are possible, but acceptance of their possibility is only one tiny piece of the process. Your 'view' has become a block to seeing reality and your double. I say this because I have taken the time to see you through this thread. And because I have a responsibility to this forum remaining a tool of our journey to an active double.

I know perfectly well you will reject everything I have said here, and consider I have no knowledge, nor authority to claim such, of who you are and where you are. You will claim I am welcome to my view, and you to yours. You will pack your bags and leave believing you have been misunderstood by an ignorant and stupid man. You will prefer to cling to your view like a priest to his crucifix, rather than change your direction.

I feel you are talented Nemo, and your view is not wrong theoretically, on a most simplistic level. But it is the concoction of an intelligent brain, which has projected itself to the depths of a pure 3rd attention theory, without having done the work to back up that theory, and thus understanding the unbelievable complexity of reality. I quoted earlier from DJ's third enemy. But you haven't got that far yet, you are up against the second:

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And thus he has encountered his second enemy: Clarity! That clarity of mind, which is so hard to obtain, dispels fear, but also blinds. It forces the man never to doubt himself. It gives him the assurance he can do anything he pleases, for he sees clearly into everything. And he is courageous because he is clear, and he stops at nothing because he is clear.

But all that is a mistake; it is like something incomplete. If the man yields to this make-believe power, he has succumbed to his second enemy and will be patient when he should rush. And he will fumble with learning until he winds up incapable of learning anything more. His second enemy has just stopped him cold from trying to become a man of knowledge.

Instead, the man may turn into a buoyant warrior, or a clown. Yet the clarity for which he has paid so dearly will never change to darkness and fear again. He will be clear as long as he lives, but he will no longer learn, or yearn for, anything.

This is my love to you: don't become a clown!
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« Reply #119 on: April 06, 2013, 06:30:50 PM »
Yes steps there are, to the way.

DJ said there are no steps to everything a warrior does, just personal power. DJ was speaking (loud).Most of the times what we can understand of his words was far from what he intended for one in the encounters with Carlos Aranna.

Personal power certainly is gained by steps and struggle.

So was maybe just nemo's view though. I think you are rather hard. (not that it's not your choice)

One last note is that freedom is not one lifetime's case. It may take several lifetimes and unpleasant deaths.

When I was 18-19 I came across a shaman in the internet who told me that we have many lives and presented me the idea of reincarnation.He had a picture of himself surrounded by peyote cacti.

I didn't believed it and I told him so. He said "I know so".

I had already suffered a great defeat already that have caused me my life in a very real way.(not sure, maybe it was before it)

Thought about it really, saw some vessels in a shelf in the island house I was and told to myself , nah there's only one lifetime (but wanted to meet that man again.It was in yahoo good old chat-rooms.I wasn't successful but... oh well I didn't adopt his idea then)

It's fine to say there are no steps but just personal power.

The time is now.

I 'm 31. :)

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It's fine to say there are no steps but just personal power.
And what is personal power? nemo has his answer as well I believe.
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