Topic: The Foreign Installation

[Endless~Knot]

Every one of us human beings has two minds. One is totally ours, and it is like a faint voice that always brings us order, directness, purpose, The other mind is a foreign installation. It brings us conflict, self-assertion, doubts, hopelessness: it's ourselves as the me-me center of the world.
       
      Let's put the topic of our two minds aside and go back to the idea of preparing your album of memorable events. Such an album is an exercise in discipline and impartiality. Consider this album to be an act of war. As such, it has all the meaning in the world.
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      We are not naturally petty and contradictory. Our pettiness and contradictions are, rather, the result of a transcendental conflict that afflicts every one of us, but of which only sorcerers are painfully and hopelessly aware: the conflict of our two minds! One is our true mind, the product of all our life experiences, the one that rarely speaks because it has been defeated and relegated to obscurity. The other, the mind we use daily for everything we do, is a foreign installation.

      To resolve the conflict of the two minds is a matter of intending it. Sorcerers beckon intent by voicing the word intent loud and clear. Intent is a force that exists in the universe. When sorcerers beckon intent, it comes to them and sets up the path for attainment, which means that sorcerers always accomplish what they set out to do.
       
      Intent can be called, of course, for anything, but sorcerers have found out, the hard way, that intent comes to them only for something that is abstract. That's the safety valve for sorcerers; otherwise they would be unbearable. Beckoning intent to resolve the conflict of your two minds, or to hear the voice of your true mind, is not a petty or arbitrary matter. Quite the contrary; it is ethereal and abstract, and yet as vital to you as anything can be.
       
~Active Side of Infinity

[Endless~Knot]

I think http://restlesssoma.com.au/restlesssoma/index.php?topic=3047.0 Deceptions of Ego on a spiritual path fits with the foreign installation. There are spiritual paths which are designed for freedom, and then paths designed for the foreign installation.

This is really tricky because the foreign installation is so pervasive. All paths have some truths into them. But some paths are moreso like a cult than others. And you have to be careful in choosing them.

Later on the path Carlos started to become a cult. But before when he was hanging with Don Juan the path was real. But later he began to fall into the dark side on the path. He became famous and the fame appealed to him. He got caught up and the foreign installation sucked him in.

The foreign installation will offer power. But like impermanence works, it will  be fleeting and will go away. The foreign installation promises permanency in attaining what you want. But it always goes away because we cannot keep anything.

And the madness of the FI knows our weaknesses very well. It is huge on a global scale, so how could it not know the little us? It is necessary to be vigilant and fight it at all costs.
I will not be a sheeple, you should say. I will not be a minion like the masses. Right?

[Kal]

I think http://restlesssoma.com.au/restlesssoma/index.php?topic=3047.0 Deceptions of Ego on a spiritual path fits with the foreign installation. There are spiritual paths which are designed for freedom, and then paths designed for the foreign installation.

This is really tricky because the foreign installation is so pervasive. All paths have some truths into them. But some paths are moreso like a cult than others. And you have to be careful in choosing them.

Later on the path Carlos started to become a cult. But before when he was hanging with Don Juan the path was real. But later he began to fall into the dark side on the path. He became famous and the fame appealed to him. He got caught up and the foreign installation sucked him in.

The foreign installation will offer power. But like impermanence works, it will  be fleeting and will go away. The foreign installation promises permanency in attaining what you want. But it always goes away because we cannot keep anything.

And the madness of the FI knows our weaknesses very well. It is huge on a global scale, so how could it not know the little us? It is necessary to be vigilant and fight it at all costs.
I will not be a sheeple, you should say. I will not be a minion like the masses. Right?

I don't think this is the case.

For me, my experience, and perception , that foreign installation even if I don't use the term is not having to do with paths.

Most probably it's something personal but I think the foreign installation is up 'for' our conscience.

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To put it a different way, my belief is that the path is something to travel, ...like a way,
while the foreign installation is something like a force with no ground, lets say.

[Endless~Knot]

I don't think this is the case.

For me, my experience, and perception , that foreign installation even if I don't use the term is not having to do with paths.

With a legitimate path no. With a false path yes.

Notice the difference.

Most probably it's something personal but I think the foreign installation is up 'for' our conscience.

Not just our conscious, but our soul/essence.

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To put it a different way, my belief is that the path is something to travel, ...like a way,
while the foreign installation is something like a force with no ground, lets say.

Yes it grounds you so you remain in the herd and cannot move your own way and find your true path.

[Nik]

i will try to be careful here but maybe that don juan actually tricked carlos in many ways also when talking about the foreign installation in the second book separate reality he means a mosquito which is a flyer and the foreign mind is what the mosquito injects to us as some chemical which becomes our second mind. just some thoughts i have.

[Kal]

With a legitimate path no. With a false path yes.

Notice the difference.

lol, endless you 've cut my post/thoughts into pieces.  

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Nik, I think you 're referring to a moth.
I think dj went to this as a gatekeeper of 'the' other world.

Not so sure.

[CherryArc]

Intent can be called, of course, for anything, but sorcerers have found out, the hard way, that intent comes to them only for something that is abstract.

This is beautiful Knot, the safety valve, such a true and echoing statement. Because without things being abstract we would fall into to live of dimensions and this is although powerful, not a very fun place to be.


But in terms of the foreign installation Its actually able to be seen, I am acutely aware of what you are talking about, For me it has been especially predominate in women more so then men. But it is best seen I noticed through text. It is an acquired sort of vision, but once you learn to recognise it, you can speak directly to that portion of someone, and you can accomplish great feats. It is indeed a secret of power.

[CherryArc]

i will try to be careful here but maybe that don juan actually tricked carlos in many ways also when talking about the foreign installation in the second book separate reality he means a mosquito which is a flyer and the foreign mind is what the mosquito injects to us as some chemical which becomes our second mind. just some thoughts i have.

Nik you are exactly right, most people I find do not like to talk about flyers, but they are an important part of the mind, Because of the nature of this subject I will not delve too much, but it is almost a perfect metaphor.

[CherryArc]

lol, endless you 've cut my post/thoughts into pieces.  

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Nik, I think you 're referring to a moth.
I think dj went to this as a gatekeeper of 'the' other world.

Not so sure.

Haha she has scattered your mind, there is a moth mosquito and nat.
The moth is the ally and omen which carries the dust of knowledge on its wings and sprinkles it on you.
The mosquito is the injection of the foreign installation, which which I just gathered.
And the Nat is the guardian to the other world, which you have to over come with your will, to enter.

[Kal]

And the Nat is the guardian to the other world, which you have to over come with your will, to enter.

Got ta love this.

(The Nat)

The mosquito.

[Endless~Knot]

Got ta love this.

(The Nat)

The mosquito.

Gnat But I know what he meant so it's all good.

[Kal]

Gnat But I know what he meant so it's all good.

You mean it's all good - with the foreign installation?

[Endless~Knot]

You mean it's all good - with the foreign installation?

No no not the foreign installation. Just spelling gnat nat.

[CherryArc]

out of all the things I said, and you guys are talking about a Gnat. heh -.-!

[Kal]

I really didn't know the word gnat, or nat so I got into it.

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