Topic: Story sake

[Jahn]

i suppose esoteric established teachings have detailed

patterned maps of awareness

which hold key symbols

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i like maps


we could work from maps had they harmonies attached

I like maps too, I am a map freak (even to this very date).
When I was a child I made my own maps of countries, and then they (the countries) Went to war and the borders changed. And I rewrote the new borders (that was in the early 1960's when the USA-Russia was in a cold war).

And I remember the day when we got the news that John F Kennedy was shot (and dead) and I was devastated (8 years old) that the "King of USA" had been murdered.

[Jahn]

i suppose esoteric established teachings have detailed

patterned maps of awareness

which hold key symbols

Well, there is an esoteric kind of map.
But that map is of no use until you buy the ticket.

The ticket is not about a journey outside your self, but rather a ticket to a journey To Your Self.
Exotic places, India, Peru or Egypt might be included in your journey to your self, but such high vibrating places is only scenes and bus stops, for your journey back to your self.

[runningstream]

Clever

and also i wondered for some time why your reply sounded so familiar

it was because a man was on a radio program a couple months or so ago

and he was saying how as as child he did just as you say



he made his own maps and created borders countries

even pitted those countries and governments structures against each other



now my recollection of it is not the best however he did go on to become

the chief in charge of something like running the defence departments

foreign borders


or not quite perhaps chief in charge of military defence of overseas or some

impromtu title  in canberra he was the chief advisor



so the map from his child hood bore fruit and alignment in his adulthood


he met a girl there


perhaps she was the one telling the story i dont remember either


the poignant point in my recollection was of losing that life partner to illness



and that being a spear through the heart




i thought about that today

i would love to have somebody to care for that much too



but i would not like to experience that



i know how it feels to have relationships for a few years

and then lose that person and they are still alive



i can only feel that happen to somebody through looking

at it


but i believe that represents what it would be to be alive



sharing the whole thing


and finding yourself giving whole heartedly to your path


i still dont understand what it means to find yourself


not really

except by walking and bumping into different emotions and experiences


sure not all seem pleasant


this self swears a lot about that


i just stuck a brake booster in a car after work



i really dislike fixing cars


its a bad habit to get into



I scream God !  please give me a brake !  hehe


maybe i should change the wording eh ?



words are powerful  i know this for sure

[runningstream]

i can only apologise for my lack of memory yet i have tried to strengthen it

it has its advantages and disadvantages i would only imagine


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigel_Coates_(admiral)


i believe it was his wife telling the story now

i believe it may have been this man


from what i gathered it was a magical relationship

maybe that's what finding yourself is


finding the magic


so you find your magical self


and having found your self


you go out to share it

looking for it in others

also



that would be a buzz


like a bee



i am seeing a basket

walking down a nice sunny day on a street with houses



maybe something about picking flowers too


or they are in bloom

[Jahn]

the poignant point in my recollection was of losing that life partner to illness

and that being a spear through the heart

Well, I am about to lose my dear, perhaps closest, friend into the mist of dementia.
His status deteriorate and suddenly he has profound problem in our intercourse.

His wife and I works now for different solutions to get a safer daily life for him.

[runningstream]

ok

sad to hear Jahn


my friend and i have been speaking about different illnesses in the last week

she does energy healings for people and readings etc

and had a boy just now they were claiming adhd

his brother is handicapped wheel chair bound from memory and he is the younger


we spoke about other ones too



we agreed it is tough times at the moment with the energies here


and how we are feeling these tensions


i believe others who do not come back to their center or who have not established

that

repoire with their selves would find this time very difficult

perhaps being swept

from the shore with no anchoring in sight

adrift



that was a carry on from our conversation also here


about what is the self ?  what about maps ?  and Michael also mentioning the center amidst turmoil .


She is clearer than me even sometimes , so i urge her


if you and i cannot wake up then no body can


so she sees her strength i tell her she can take as much of mine as she likes


but the truth is we just need to be in/aquire each others presence


she is one being who balances me out and i her



it is definitely nice to have somebody like that to hold a steady breeze


perhaps she is my best friend too

in the light of her depth

[runningstream]

blessed be

as i was today

and might be tomorrow


someone asks me to train them

it felt like a chore for a moment

then it made me feel alive


then i read an ad for a gym

then went to the supermarket

then the lady at checkout speaks about her gym "same gym"


so i trained too again

and also felt good


motivating people and plugging into health and fitness

is a buzz too


its a different world from the orange shirt army

of nitty gritty middle class hum drum


i started doing the course to be a personal trainer

yet never quite put it to gether to finish

self sabotage


maybe the time was'nt right


always see myself teaching boxing to kids and weights or something somewhere

up north on some remoteish place


while they teach me to fish and eat plants


i know the government loves giving grants for such things


however i heard they are shutting down heaps and heaps of remote communities


because of a keffuful with funding argument

between different governmental bodies and whos responsibilities it is


amazing how these things can slip between the cracks as though no one sees



yet well have to hear some cricket captain or something blabber on about

how he let his team down or how the boys all put in a good effor t or some bullshit

[runningstream]

wanting to say what is strength again

the ability to remember something like

"the self"

why i suppose there are degrees

and the self is attached to another connection


so that is where the teachings differ


what is an attachment ?


depends how it attaches


fertile soil and all that


seeds


strength of remembering


remembering how good seed grows on fertile soil



and using strength to hold that keel on some kind of course


nothing to do with bashing through walls

for the sake of king kong

of course





another one lately was whats the difference between stupid and ignorant

one cannot be held totally responsible

the other choses to ignore the truth in the light of it through stubborness



that is a lot like a kind of strength in its own way


yet its heading in the wrong direction


i would say a childs innocent heart


is perhaps more strong than such a person who would try to bend that will

to an end which was not alike the childs heart


when they looked each other in the eyes


which ones eyes would portray hurt or strength


the hurt could indeed be more so strength if it was of a purity

to connect to what it knew was right

in the face of something else 


you know the look "your a jerk"

and you know it


if we would continue on that course

we would be a jerk



another thing

sometimes maintaining a course is necessary

say if you knew your path was arduous and you had to push through certain

phases to arrive further along and get through things


the garden of eden was the path always through it


these words are for myself

bread crumbs of maps

[Jahn]

i started doing the course to be a personal trainer

yet never quite put it to gether to finish

self sabotage


maybe the time was'nt right

If you want to live your dream, being a personal trainer - or whatever your dream is.
You have to set your intent - and live it
You have to believe in your self and allow the energies from the unlimited universe to support you.

The key to your life is found within you.

[runningstream]

well said

i have lived lots of dreams


i keep having to dream up new ones


perhaps i will do that again

I am certainly blessed

being blessed works in certain directions

and in others not

i really do believe in timing

you could ask do you believe in fate and get different answers

yet when it comes to timing it is undeniable

however

existing within a point within time

does it mean you are disconnected from aonther point within time ?


its an image of beginning and end all relevant

within the line which is witnessed

and if no beginning or end

the that frees up a hell of a lot of energy

when it comes to "connection"

and "disconnection" of lines


friend speaking of something like recapitulation



breath comes out "energy"belonging to them  " the recipient within past memory  "


breath comes back "energy" within past memory to "breath-ee"


breath passes to and returns to each members heart



breath "energy" travels formation of infinity symbol "on its side" as it travels route

between recipients

[runningstream]

its good for drying washing

and lounging around

or pumping water up to the tank

gas for this and that it all costs


seeing how it was so hot

a tupperware container had to be sacrificed for the magpies

probably the willy wagtails too

construction adhesive to the top of a fence post


i just saw them drinking from a bucket around the back

two magpies


i suppose they have'nt figured it out yet

i would not be surprised the bucket would be cooler though

and its rain not bore



magpies would know their stuff


i picture green

not the sort of green that makes you go ew



the sort that feels like inside a pastel forest


inside the house


curtains

timber touches



softening the harshness


insulation !



i can't believe mosquitoes even survive in this heat

oh and the little midgies are about


fleas !


and on on on


pumping water up


not much can be done in this heat


cleaning up and getting everything in order

[runningstream]

for Jahn


A man is driving up the road in a car

he has bought a new hat


at one point the hat blows up from the back floor of the car

as the man is wondering what the fit is like and that he never tried it out


also that the fabric on top of it is ventilated

and it will be much cooler than the old one


as the hat blows up from the back floor of the car onto the console between the seats


the man pushes it back down and avoids it being flown out the window


next something unexpected occurs


as the mans eyes realign to the road

he sees there is now a brim hat on the road


it is not the same hat sure

yet it does not look old which is odd


and it is also a brim hat


actually nearly good enough to stop the car for


yet the man keeps driving baffled




would you believe a man if he said manifesting something was not the problem ?



at the risk of sounding pompous


do you really think this is what the buddhists are speaking about


when they speak of dependent arising and that stuff?

[runningstream]

example 2:



A man arrives in a town newly

after being told about a company and how the people are nice and great to work for


the man goes into a job agency



he has decided which company he will work for


he tells the woman what he wants to do


he tells the woman who he wants to work for



keep in mind there are over fifty thousand people there



the woman across the desk turns out to be the ex wife of a man who works at the same


company


and she rings to ask yet already has some inside information



the man waits one week and then begins work at that company and is still there







have you ever heard of an extreme case of dependant arising?

[runningstream]

Please take my question in absolute seriousness

Or anyone is welcome to answer as i would

Love a reply

[Nichi]

Please take my question in absolute seriousness

Or anyone is welcome to answer as i would

Love a reply

would you believe a man if he said manifesting something was not the problem?

Yes I would easily believe it.  I've done it at many points in my life - so well that I tried to stop the process when it involved other people directly.

at the risk of sounding pompous


do you really think this is what the buddhists are speaking about


when they speak of dependent arising and that stuff?

"Dependent arising"... do you mean 'attachment' here?
You may not, but if you do, the process of manifesting a thing works better when you drop the attachment to the outcome. That way, you're allowing Spirit or your double, even, to take over the process. The caveat there is that you must trust Spirit to bring what is for your highest good. So, in that motif, if you do not manifest the thing, then there was some higher reason that you did not. "It's all good," as they say.

But do the Buddhists observe such practices? Perhaps the Tibetan Buddhists do, but I really don't know. The Taoists might, but again, I don't know for sure. Others here are more expert in the Buddhist and Taoist practices than myself.